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Forum topic by Cougar posted 12-26-2013 06:23 PM 1207 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Cougar

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12-26-2013 06:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw reviews

Gentlemen, long time listener, first time caller. I am in the 11th hour of buying a bandsaw (my first one) and I can’t decide which model to get. My budget is $1000 and I am looking to get a 14”, 110v bandsaw. In a perfect world, I could get something made in America, a mobile base, ceramic blade guides, and a stock fence that doesn’t look like a child’s toy. Unfortunately, the USA apparently doesn’t make tools anymore, so… Here are the options on the table and my impressions:
- RIKON 10-325: I can get it for about $850 new, out the door. Common gripe is crappy blade guides, so that upgrade takes me to my budget limit. Fence looks nice. No mobile base.
- PM PWBS-14CS: I can get a good condition used one for $800 with a couple extra blades. No mobile base, stock guides, and fence that looks small and cheap. Common complaint is poor fence, so upgrade would take me to my limit. PM’s CS is supposed to be pretty good also.
- Grizzly 0513: I can get a good condition used one for about $800 that comes with a mobile base. Has a cheap looking fence and may need blade guide upgrade. I know nothing about Grizzly CS.
- Jet 14DXPro: At $1000, I’m not buying a BS that doesn’t even come with a fence…
- Laguna 14/12: Costs $1050. Everything I have heard about this saw is good. Nice fence, ceramic guides (no mobile base). BUT, Laguna has notoriously bad CS. Not sure if I want to support them and/or deal with the bad CS.

Right now, I am leaning towards PM or the Rikon and upgrading the fence or guides to made the saw really nice. Then again, if I was confident enough to make the purchase, I wouldn’t be here asking, now would I? Your experience and thoughts on the matter are appreciated.


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PaulDoug

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#1 posted 12-26-2013 06:57 PM

Well, I’m no expert, for sure, but of the ones on your list, I’d lean towards the Grizzly or the Powermatic. The Grizzly because it is a larger band saw, the PM because of their reputation. As for the fence, I don’t know what you mean by cheap looking, If it holds in place, is able to adjust 90’ to the blade, then what else are you looking for? I got by for years with a homemade fence. Just my opinion.

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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theoldfart

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#2 posted 12-26-2013 07:06 PM

I have a PM 14” w/riser, and I did upgrade the fence to an Incra. Resaws quite well, bit of a bugger getting it all dialed in at first but once there no problems for 2 1/2 years now.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 12-26-2013 07:09 PM

I’m not pimping for one or the or the other, but I want to mention Grizzly CS. In your case I guess it would be a parts issue….but every time I’ve dealt with them it was excellent, and that includes some warranty service. This isn’t universal, but theri service is a lot better than some more well known names; like Delta for instance.

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#4 posted 12-26-2013 07:11 PM

By your description of options in the post, IMO would be the Grizzly G0513. The G0513 is a 17” and the rest are 14”. Bigger could be better. In my experience, Grizzly customer service has been great to me. Good luck in your decision.
Edit:
I looked at the Grizzly website. In case you were curious about what new is going for. Current price for a new one is $875.00 and shipping $99 for a grand total of $974
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0513

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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toolie

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#5 posted 12-26-2013 07:20 PM

Griz or rikon. PM NIB is probably over your budget and jet, as you’ve pointed out, isn’t really a bargain. Griz has larger wheels equating to somewhat longer blade life. Rikon 325 is a top flight unit, as is the rikon company. I sold an 18” jet ansd replaced it within 18” rikon. Couldn’t be happier.

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Bobsboxes

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#6 posted 12-26-2013 07:33 PM

I have two of the Rikon 10-325’s, one with narrow blade and Carter scrolling guide. One with the easy to adjust Cater guides and 1/2” resaw blade. I use them both almost daily, they have been a great investment for me, both have worked very well for me. One is 4 years old and one is two years old. Good luck.

-- Bob in Montana. Kindness is the Language the blind can see and deaf can hear. - Mark Twain

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#7 posted 12-26-2013 07:39 PM

I would get the Grizzly G0513. This will take up to and including 1” blades. I have the smaller Grizzly and it goes up to 3/4”. Once you get to the 1” blades, the rules change when it comes to resawing – much better blades in the 1” range.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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bbc557ci

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#8 posted 12-26-2013 07:53 PM

I too have been thinking about getting a band saw.

The Griz that kdc68 linked and that dbray mentions…. Is that the blade tension knob at the top inside of the throat? Might it get in the way from time to time?

I’m a BS dummy so sorry if this is a dumb observation / question :o/

http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0513

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 12-27-2013 03:03 AM

I bought the Extreme Series Grizzly 17” saw for right at your budget limit and love it. Never felt a need to replace the blade guides that came with it. I have always found Grizzly’s CS to be excellent. One of their guys stayed on the phone with me for over a half hour when I was having trouble getting a 1/8” blade to track! (I had the tension too high)

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Cougar

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#10 posted 12-27-2013 05:33 PM

As it turns out, I was going to buy the Griz, but then I realized it drew 20A at 110V. I have 15A breakers in the house I rent. I don’t think I can run it.

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Buckeyes85

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#11 posted 12-27-2013 06:25 PM

I have the PM and really like it. A good friend has been doing a lot of research and he’s leaning toward the Rikon. As for the mobile base, I just got a set of those good orange-wheeled locking casters from woodcraft. there are mounting holes on the underside of the PM that the stems go right through. Much cheaper than the mobile base and locks down solid. Whatever you buy you might want to look at using casters as an option to the true mobile base. There are probably some who will blast me for saying it but I’ve not had a problem.

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theoldfart

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#12 posted 12-27-2013 06:27 PM

Just a word of advice on the mobile base, stay away from the HTC, the plastic lift levers break easily. Almost had my PM topple over.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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Cougar

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#13 posted 12-28-2013 04:40 AM

Thanks all for your input. I am going with the Rikon tomorrow. WC has a decent sale on it. I would like to have been able to get the Griz, but the electrical in my garage won’t allow it.

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kdc68

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#14 posted 12-28-2013 04:53 AM

Looks like a nice machine….congrats

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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