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athomas5009

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12-23-2013 04:05 PM

Hi I just picked up what I would estimate to be a 1980s powermatic 50. It has all the parts but needs a set of blades and to be restored. While cleaning the rust off the top I noticed it was pitted a little more than I thought / would have liked. Should the jointer still be able to perform adequately with a moderate amount of pitting? If not how much do you think it would cost to have a machine shop grind down the top a bit? Also what is the best cleaner to clean the parts besides the top?

Thanks everyone in advance.

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.


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ScrubPlane

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#1 posted 12-23-2013 04:15 PM

Should work fine…remember what the purpose of a jointer is, a ‘long continuus and flat’ pair of surfaces. Pitting n something that size is cosmetic more than anything. What you want to avoid, of course, is that it gets worse.

Now…should you want, simply remove the tables and take them to a neighbordhood machine shop. They should have the equipment to clean them and ‘tune them’ back to factory perfection.

Merry Christmas and Congrats on your find…

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athomas5009

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#2 posted 12-31-2013 04:25 AM

Hey all I’m threw cleaning and removing the paint from the jointer itself now on to the base. Ill post some pictures of the progress in a bit. I had a quick question about the motor and pullies. It came with a 3/4 hp 3phase 3450 rpm and I was going to swap it out with a 1 hp 1 phase 3450 rpm motor. Do I need to mess with the pullies at all for the cutter head to work properly?

Andrew

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.

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HerbC

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#3 posted 12-31-2013 04:33 AM

Just move the pulley to the new motor, if it will fit the shaft. Otherwise, purchase the same size pulley with the right ID (hole)...

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

Herb

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#4 posted 01-16-2014 12:34 PM

Well the restoration is well on its way now. Everything was cleaned And wired wheeled and now I’m about to start painting this weekend. Does anyone know where is the best place to look for a new fence angle gauge and a new infeed table gauge? I wouldn’t if I could just order the ones for the 54a and just slap them on the model 50?

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.

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athomas5009

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#5 posted 01-23-2014 02:28 AM

Does anyone have some advise for my newest delimma?

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.

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#6 posted 01-23-2014 11:56 AM

You can try Redmond Machinery but I have to warn you, I was shocked at their price for a part that I once needed.

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#7 posted 01-23-2014 12:33 PM

As far as the fence angle, I always use a Wixey and never the machine gauge. There are other brands for this type of gauge. I do use the table gauge, and don’t have a solution for that.

-- Bill R

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#8 posted 01-23-2014 12:49 PM

I’m assuming you are talking about the pointers for the gauges if I were you I’d just get some aluminum bar stock and make my own. A hacksaw, a file , some sandpaper, red paint and a little patience can save you some money here. If you mean the scales you can live without them. I have always set my fence to 90 degrees with an engineers square and left it there and table adjustment for precise cuts require test cuts even with a scale. You’ll be surprised how close you can get after you get use to the machine without using the scale.

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hydro

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#9 posted 01-23-2014 01:53 PM

On the table surfaces, try using a ROS and some 120 discs and sand them dry. You will get a nice smooth surface and the sander will not remove any measurable amount of metal. Take the grit up to 240 or 320 if you like, it really will not matter in performance later on. The last step is to paste wax with a gray Scotch Brite pad. That will give a nice slick finish.

I have used this process on several restored machines and it works nicely.

-- Minnesota Woodworkers Guild, Past President, Lifetime member.

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#10 posted 01-23-2014 02:02 PM

Love me some 1,2,3 blocks for machine set ups.

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#11 posted 01-23-2014 02:46 PM

I broke one table on my Powermatic jointer.
I got it rewelded and machine flat for about $100.00
If you are going to keep your jointer many years and if the pitting bothers you or is problem, get the tables out and send them to a machine shop, they will come back better than new.

-- Bert

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athomas5009

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#12 posted 02-07-2014 06:31 AM

Well I just finished up clear coating everything and I will probably let everything harden for a couple weeks before assembly. Here are a couple before pics that I never got around to posting earlier. I had already cleaned the bed in these pics. It was just to dirty and rusty to carry on without cleaning 1st. The color scheme I went with was gloss black with with accents and white pin stripes.

Andrew

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.

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athomas5009

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#13 posted 02-07-2014 06:36 AM

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.

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