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Forum topic by Kyheadhunter posted 12-22-2013 06:26 PM 2782 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Kyheadhunter

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12-22-2013 06:26 PM

OK, I’ve been narrow down my options for a jointer to an Oliver 144 (about a 1959 version) and a Powermatic 60. Both are about equal distance away so driving distance isn’t a factor. The Oliver is $900 the Powermatic 60 is $750. Both jointers are single phase 220. The Powermatic is an old school green version, which has been cleaned up. Both units are good working units, tables level and fences square. The Oliver is a belt driven (not retrofit, its original). The Oliver comes with two extra set of knives and a magnetic knife setting gauge, and a shop made wheeled cart to move it around.

Based on that info, which unit would you purchase and are the prices in range of reasonable?


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Mainiac Matt

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#1 posted 12-22-2013 06:33 PM

I’d buy the longest ground AL straight edge from Lee Vally nd check both jointers very carefully. Then I’d buy the one with the in and outfeed tables closest to perfect coplanar.

If both are the same, I’d get the one with the more robust drive system

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#2 posted 12-22-2013 06:35 PM

The oliver is a 1 HP westinghouse motor, the Powermatic is a 1 1/2 HP motor, not sure of the brand.

The owner of the Oliver also told me he has done some slight shimming on the tables.

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#3 posted 12-22-2013 07:07 PM

The Oliver has a reputation of being a top quality industrial machine. I would say that is the best machine, even if it needs some work. You could offer less money for it. I love old iron and that’s what I would do.

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#4 posted 12-22-2013 07:12 PM

The person with the oliver has already come down $200 from original asking price. A bit more background. The powermatic came out of a school and was refurbed by current owner who intended on keeping it but his other tools are 3 phase and he as come across a three phase joionter, the Oliver came out of a business who bought it new. The person who has it now has had it for a year but is getting a bigger jointer.

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#5 posted 12-23-2013 01:48 AM

Some more input would be very welcome. I really appreciate the detailed input. Too bad these machines aren’t in the same direction, but they are in opposite directions, and too far to drive and walk away, but maybe not?

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#6 posted 12-23-2013 04:23 PM

While I cannot offer an opinion on either machine…I envy your decision.

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#7 posted 12-23-2013 05:07 PM

I love my PM 60. I like the magnetic knife setters and the allen screws which raise the knives. It makes final tweakage a breeze. If the Oliver does not have that feature, it would tilt me to the PM. Even after buying a magna-set it’s less $ for the 60.

That said, either machine will last you a couple of lifetimes.

Oh, I prefer not to roll around a machine like a jointer. Just a bias I have.

Kindly,

Lee

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#8 posted 12-23-2013 06:29 PM

I would go Oliver. Better machine

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