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Holbs

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12-21-2013 09:32 PM

i’m not talking cuts, blood, loss of fingers, etc. More so… pulled muscles, tennis elbows, back aches, etc.
I worked all weekend last week on dovetail cuts using Japanese saw and fret saw, learning to gain experience.
The next morning, tennis elbow! I’m no stranger to sore muscles and joints, but this time around (maybe cause i am getting older), I was sidelined all week enough to buy a elbow brace and heated warming pad. I feel 75% better but still with a little twinge.
So that got me thinking and researching about muscle groups, tendons & joints, exercising for wood working.
Some links I’ll be considering to do as I age:
1.) Rehab For Tennis Elbow
2.) Elbow Strengthening Exercises
3.) Hand/Wrist Exercises
4.) Wrist Exercises
5.) Shoulder Conditioning Program
6.) Shoulder Exercises

i’m sure there are billions of sites that discuss wrist, elbow, and shoulder rehab strengthening exercises. I do know, I’ll start doing some of these before a simple elbow injury keeps me away from wood working again later.

Definately, since i’m 6’1”, i’ll be looking to build a dedicated joinery table that is comfortable to my height.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"


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Dallas

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#1 posted 12-21-2013 09:49 PM

Don’t get me wrong, I am not doubting you. How do you know you have tennis elbow after such a short time?
Were you diagnosed by a professional or are you a professional?
Tennis elbow normally happens with repetetive movements over a period of time, not a weekend of using a saw.

We all have aches and pains as we get older. It’s great it we we can put a name to it, but face it…. we are getting old.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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MrRon

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#2 posted 12-21-2013 09:55 PM

I know what you are experiencing. Old age catches up with us all. My problem is arthritis of the back. The rest of me seems to be ok. I lift a couple of 10# dumbbells each day and I think it is just enough to keep my arm muscles working.

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Holbs

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#3 posted 12-21-2013 09:55 PM

i can only ‘assume’ cutting dovetails all weekend was the cause of my tennis elbow. very easily could of been something at work (i am a telecommunications contractor of pulling cat5 cabling and such). but i do not remember putting any stress on my elbow til cutting dovetails. either way… i’ll do some basic wrist & elbow exercises tossed in with my regular workouts.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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Dallas

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#4 posted 12-21-2013 10:15 PM

What I meant was that tennis elbow is a problem caused by long term exposure to repetitive actions. A weekend of wood working doesn’t qualify but can aggravate the problem if it is pre-existing.
If it is something else, get thee hence to a Dr. or clinic to catch any other problem. Some can be much more serious than you think and trying to fix it with exercises from the WWW might exacerbate the problem, but it’s all up to you!

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#5 posted 12-22-2013 02:42 PM

I’m not sure if this will help you or not. It has helped me.

When trying to perform new or intricate tasks it is very easy to “tense up”. I have
found myself holding a tool or a computer mouse in a death grip. Now I try to
ease my grip and relax. It has helped me feel better at the end of the day.
It will also make the work more enjoyable.

BJ

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Holbs

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#6 posted 12-22-2013 03:31 PM

as Dallas said, this joint/tenon booboo could of came from anywhere else…simple computer mouse over use or from my work as well. but it did re-enforce the idea in me, to do some excercises to help strengthen wood working muscle groups and joints only because i see more and more use in the coming future. everyone says using hand tools is a work out onto itself :) just makes sense to stretch and exercise because i do feel out of shape and working with those dovetails all weekend did wear me out surprisingly faster than i thought.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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summerfi

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#7 posted 12-22-2013 03:48 PM

If I do a significant amount of hammering, as in a day’s worth of framing work, my elbow becomes very sore. I’m quite sure this is tendonitis, i.e. tennis elbow, resulting from years of such work. The invention of nail guns has made this a less frequent occurrence.

Something I deal with constantly when working with my hands is splitting of my fingers and thumbs right at the corners of my fingernails. The only thing I’ve found that helps is applying an antibiotic salve, which speeds the healing. Anyone else deal with that?

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

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Don W

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#8 posted 12-22-2013 03:56 PM

If I do a significant amount of hammering, as in a day’s worth of framing work, my elbow becomes very sore.

This can be caused by not using the correct hammer, and/or not holding the hammer correctly (don’t choke up on it) let the weight do the work.

I’ve also found that getting older has a profound affect on it all!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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Holbs

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#9 posted 12-22-2013 04:06 PM

i guess a good question to ponder… who would be less sore after alot of hand tool use? me or Richard Simmons? hmm….

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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summerfi

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#10 posted 12-22-2013 04:17 PM

This can be caused by not using the correct hammer, and/or not holding the hammer correctly (don’t choke up on it) let the weight do the work.

I agree, Don, but I don’t think that’s the case in my situation. A hammer is basically a lever, and the arm from elbow to hand is an extension of that lever. This puts a great deal of stress on elbow tendons (just like a tennis racket) and that repetitive stress over years can take a toll.

getting older has a profound affect on it all!

Boy, don’t I know that!

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

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ScrubPlane

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#11 posted 12-22-2013 04:44 PM

Speaking from personal experience (thirty plus years of actually playing tennis), elbow pain can be challenging to alleviate once it has ‘set in’.

First…rest and ice the elbow until it is completely pain free.

Second, slowly build a regimen of exercises to strengthen the muscles surrounding the elbow joint.

Third, pay very close attention to the ergonomics of your motions and ensure your tools are razor sharp.

Fourth, consider a neoprene sleeve around the joint to support it and increase heat and thereby the blood flow around the joint.

Finally…’listen’ to your elbow in the future. As the old saying goes…if it hurts when I do this, then don’t do THAT. Key…don’t aggravate the joint to the point of pain. If doing a number of repetitious motions…pay attention to what your elbow is telling you and then ice immediately afterwards.

Cheers and Merry Christmas…

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Holbs

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#12 posted 12-22-2013 04:53 PM

ah. exercises i will do. but good idea about wearing neoprene sleeve. i bought one already. might as well use it when i work with hand tools. good idea.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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Don W

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#13 posted 12-22-2013 07:28 PM

but good idea about wearing neoprene sleeve.

do the make a full body suit?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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summerfi

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#14 posted 12-22-2013 11:52 PM

Here ya go Don. This is what you and I need.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

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Don W

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#15 posted 12-22-2013 11:56 PM

I’m going to need a bigger size Bob!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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