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Forum topic by Steve Kreins posted 12-19-2013 09:42 PM 604 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Steve Kreins

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12-19-2013 09:42 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router learning beginner help question

I set up my new router and practiced on some scrap. I only used the round over bit and I’d say most of it was C+ to a B- quality. (I’m a hard grader ;)) I had the direction correct, but every once in a while it would catch and stop or hesitate causing a gouge.

What are the most likely causes? BTW these were all outside edge cuts on 3/4 ply and 2×4 pine.
I appreciate any advice!

-- I thank God for everything, especially all of you!


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#1 posted 12-19-2013 09:58 PM

It can be a number of things that can cause this,it can be routing against the grain or routing figured wood or taking to deep of a cut all at once instead of routing your depth a little at a time,it could also be what is called blow out when you routing across the grain and you come to the end of the board you blow out the end of your cut. The way to avoid that is to do whats called a climb cut the last 2” of your cut across the grain.This is basically routing from right to left instead of the normal left to right.These cuts only apply to hand held routers,if your using a router table it would be just the opposite .
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It could also be a dull or broken router bit or a defective or worn out router. Lastly Plywood dulls router bits fairly fast and pine can have pitch that bogs down a router bit too.
Some times photos of the problem can help.

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Hinge

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#2 posted 12-19-2013 10:28 PM

It could also be that you tipped the router slightly.

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#3 posted 12-19-2013 10:29 PM

Router is brand new or new to you? I ask because another possibility is an electrical problem, as in the switch or the cord. First thing that I’d look into is your technique (are you feeding too fast or jamming the material into an underpowered tool), the second is the bit, and then tool itself. Not clear if you’re a newb with routers, but if you are then watch some YouTube videos to firm up your sense of how the rate and angle of the feed should go.

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#4 posted 12-19-2013 10:48 PM

Could also be a loose router bit or loose fence (if you were using that)... Even ‘pro-sumer’ grade routers tend to have cheap fences. If yor bit had a follower ball bearing this might be bad as well. Hope you get it right!

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#5 posted 12-20-2013 02:26 AM

Thanks for the reply’s guys. It’s a new router, new bits and I’m new. I’m practicing on scrap and getting better. All of your input will help.

-- I thank God for everything, especially all of you!

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#6 posted 12-20-2013 02:45 AM

OK, no laughing. This my first attempt, the outside edge came out perfect. The inside, well it;s different. ;) Besides, tomorrow is my anniversary. I’m still working on the finish.

-- I thank God for everything, especially all of you!

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#7 posted 12-20-2013 03:00 AM

Too fast, too deep, cheap or dull bit all combined.

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#8 posted 12-20-2013 05:05 AM

A router will find its own course without a guide or template. When freehand routing, I have had best luck with a 1/4” carbide down spiral bit. Freud and Whiteside make good products. You will feel much more control compared to a 1/2” straight bit.

If I need to make a 1/2” deep cut, I usually do it in multiple light passes.

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#9 posted 12-20-2013 06:01 AM

All good info above and my limited experience, along with my CNC machinist son who told me that, my the movement speed of the router was not uniform especially around small corners.

When I use a template/bushing on my roughing cuts I wrap some masking tape around the bushing and when I go back for my finish cuts I remove the tape. This has worked for me in those occasions when a template/bushing/work will allow. In some cases this is not possible!

Fortunately, all these will correct themselves with experience.

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Steve Kreins

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#10 posted 12-22-2013 02:41 AM

Rather than throwing my practice piece away I went for a save with a few stones and some grout. Everybody has to learn some time.

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#11 posted 12-22-2013 02:47 AM

Steve,

Good save.

Happy Anniversary.

I think Judy will like it.

Keep trying, things will improve with practice.

Be Careful!

Herb

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#12 posted 12-22-2013 06:09 AM

Good job freehand routing as it is one of the hardest things to do as the grain wants to throw you of course!

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