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Forum topic by MrGoodCat posted 206 days ago 523 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MrGoodCat

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206 days ago

I’ve been planning a large built it cabinet project. I’m planning on staining the finished product a dark burgundy. After some searching I’ve found a saw mill selling blemish cypress for VERY cheap. My question is what challenges could I run into with blemished cypress? Would it take stain well? Thanks for your time.

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TCCcabinetmaker

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#1 posted 206 days ago

Blemished can mean a lot of different things. It could be what some people call pecky, in which bugs have eaten it. Or it could be what others call rustic, which has a lot of Knots and cracks. Still also it coud have marks in the board from the metal bands used to band it together. Then they may mean something entirely different.

1 and 2 will take stain, 3 will also take stain, but you will always have discoloration where the bands were.

-- The mark of a good carpenter is not how few mistakes he makes, but rather how well he fixes them.

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Wolfdaddy

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#2 posted 206 days ago

Pecky cypress is actually caused by a fungus, and it generally is relatively expensive.
My guess is it’s maybe #2 cypress, which will have more knots and defects.

-- Your failures do not take away your possibilities.

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MrGoodCat

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#3 posted 206 days ago

Thanks for the replys. I’ll have to drive the 2hrs to look at it. I’ll also have to consult the client (aka wife) on what look she wants. I wouldn’t mind a few knots just no holes.

-- Beware the lollipop of mediocrity, lick it once and you suck forever.

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gfadvm

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#4 posted 205 days ago

My experience in staining cypress was that it blotches very badly (like pine only worse).

I didn’t try any ‘blotch control/shellac which may have made a significant difference.

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MrGoodCat

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#5 posted 205 days ago

Hmmm botching would be bad. She’s looking for a mahogany look. The project is 24’ long and 8’ tall so I’ll need a large amount of lumber. Is there something that will give me the mahogany look without the price?

-- Beware the lollipop of mediocrity, lick it once and you suck forever.

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joeyinsouthaustin

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#6 posted 205 days ago

Steamed Beech, or possibly the right alder stained properly. Def not cypress. Try sipo, and other mahoganyesk woods.

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chrisstef

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#7 posted 205 days ago

Sapele is pretty close to mahogany as well. Ive used a dye stain on cypress with good results but I don’t think youd ever be able to make cypress look like mahogany.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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nuttree

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#8 posted 205 days ago

Sapele is a good replacement, but it still isn’t cheap. Definitely not Cypress if your going for a Mahogany look.

-- I only went out for a walk and finally concluded to stay out till sundown, for going out, I found, was really going in. -John Muir

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MrGoodCat

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#9 posted 205 days ago

Thank you so much. You’ve given me a lot to think about. Now for the fun part pricing and avaibilty. I don’t know if anyone’s told you today but you folks are awesome.

-- Beware the lollipop of mediocrity, lick it once and you suck forever.

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jumbojack

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#10 posted 205 days ago

No matter what you use this is a big job. Have you considered ply, with veneer?

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chrisstef

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#11 posted 205 days ago

Veneer ply is a great call jumbo. That’s a ton of square footage to cover at 24’ x 8’. You could use regular framing lumber for the carcass and cover the rest in veneered ply. No holes, no voids, no blemishes.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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HerbC

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#12 posted 205 days ago

We used to use Spanish Cedar as a less expensive replacement for Honduras Mahogany back in the 1960’s. Not sure how available/cheap it is now, but it did seem to match up pretty well back then.

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

Herb

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