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adbuett

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246 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: jointer

After Christmas I am going to be spending about $1000 on a jointer. It is the last “necessary” Power Tool I want, so I want to get one that will last as long as my great grandfather’s craftsman tools have. I am torn between a Jet JJ-6csd [6 inch normal cutter head] and some sort of Grizzly model. The Jet is theoretically going to be manufactured to higher tolerances, but with the Grizzly I could get better specs for my buck. Parallel beds and spiral cutter heads etc.

Based on experience, or flat out unfounded opinion, what would you all recommend I go for?

I will also mention that I am able to pick both types up from store/warehouse so shipping is not an issue. Thanks a million for your thoughts,

Andrew


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 246 days ago

From the two I would gp grizz. Where you get the theory that jet would be made to closer tolerances?

And what tolerances are talking here? Forgings,castings,machining?electrical?

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darthford

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#2 posted 246 days ago

I purchased a jointer recently, went with Grizzly. Here’s the short version, all these jointers look like they were made in the same factory using the same castings. I wasn’t looking for the cheapest machine, I was perfectly willing to pay more to get more. So I spoke with Powermatic to try to figure out why their jointer was worth so much more than the Grizzly when they looked identical. They were unable to give me even one example. Exasperated at one point I said well do you at least put a USA or Taiwan motor in the thing? They guy checked and said no its from China.

This is NOT 100% true for every type of machine, for example there was one key difference between the Grizzly 15” planer and the Powermatic 15” planer and I choked down the $3,000 plus to get the Powermatic. But for every other tool I have purchased recently I keep coming back to Grizzly because there has been no compelling reason to buy another brand at a higher cost. I just purchased a Grizzly metal lathe yesterday, same story this same lathe is sold under a bunch of different brands, all hundreds of dollars more than the Grizzly. I think the Shop Fox version of this lathe was $800 more.

So if you are going to opt for a Jet or Powermatic or some non-Grizzly brand just make sure you are actually paying more to get more and not just paying for that color paint and brand label.

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toolie

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#3 posted 246 days ago

The Jet is theoretically going to be manufactured to higher tolerances

“theoretically” being the operative word in that statement. skip the jet kool aid and get the griz.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Pezking7p

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#4 posted 246 days ago

All name brands are overpriced. Buy the grizzly. It’s more about the design than where it was made. Most if the classiest/high tech electronics and equipment are now made in China.

Edit: but does that make grizzly a name brand? I think I just blew my own mind.

-- -Dan

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nwbusa

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#5 posted 246 days ago

Grizzly G0490X.

-- John, BC, Canada

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adbuett

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#6 posted 246 days ago

Thanks for the replies everybody!

Cabmaker: it may be naivety on my part to assume the bump in price would correlate to a higher quality… my impression was that even though these machines are made in the same factory a machine that is from somebody like Jet for instance, is going to have tighter quality control limits than a cheaper machine. Obviously one can say a lot of the price difference comes because of marketing, but how much exactly?

Anyway, I was initially leaning toward grizz when my budget was smaller, but as the budget increased I began to become a marketing statistic and lean towards jet! I am seeing all the extra options I could get with grizzly and am again leaning that way.

I would love to hear some more opinions! Also, any leanings on parrallelogram adjustment or spiral cutter heads? Thanks everybody,

Andrew

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darthford

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#7 posted 246 days ago

This

plus this

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Grandpa

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#8 posted 246 days ago

I once worked in a factory that made rubber hoses. We made hose for our label plus many others. I was a rework person. IF the hose had blems then I had a machine that buffed the outside and took the blems off. We then died it and it passed through a machine that rolled a different name on it. They could all say our hose is manufactured in XYZ factory and tell the truth. The real truth was the specifications were not the same for all hoses. So these tools can be manufactured in the same plant with the same components and still be different.

With all that said I will tell you I don’t own either of those tools but today I think I would go with the Grizzly. Why? Well, no product is any better than the customer service you receive after they hold YOUR money in THEIR hand. I read many good things about the customer service from Grizzly. The product seems to be competitive in quality and the customer service is better. We expect great things for a great price and we don’t seem to be receiving it.

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knotscott

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#9 posted 246 days ago

I’d definitely go for the Griz if you’re willing to be your own middleman. I have very little confidence that the Jet has any significant quality advantage….is that what the sales staff is telling you? If you want dealer support, and are willing to pay for it, then the Jet would make sense to me, but not based on a quality advantage.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Grandpa

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#10 posted 246 days ago

I think Bertha had a Jet jointer and he was disappointed as I recall. I could be wrong but I recommend sending him a private message and see if you can get him to respond on this.

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rad457

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#11 posted 246 days ago

Laguna helical head. Worth every penny, carbide cuts anything and leaves a glass smooth finish. Did I mention how quiet and smooth it runs.

-- Andre of Alberta. Finger Prints show your hands were on the wood.

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pintodeluxe

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#12 posted 246 days ago

I have the Delta DJ-20, which is very similar to the Grizzly 490. It is a solid machine.
I would be sure to get an 8” model, and the parallelogram tables are a real plus.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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jonah

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#13 posted 246 days ago

If you’re going to spend a grand, definitely get an 8” jointer. Grizzly would be my choice because of bang for the buck.

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knotheadswoodshed

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#14 posted 245 days ago

I have the Jet, just added a shelix head…if I could do it all over, I would get the 8” Griz with spiral cutter and parallelogram tables

-- Randy - "I dont make mistakes, I make design change opportunities" www.knotheadswoodshed.com

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