New kitchen almost done and oops -

  • Advertise with us

« back to Designing Woodworking Projects forum

Forum topic by Bullet posted 12-18-2013 02:50 PM 9162 views 2 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Bullet's profile


150 posts in 3323 days

12-18-2013 02:50 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question tip

Hey LJ’s,

I ran into a problem while installing appliances in my new kitchen. When I designed it I didn’t take into account that the dishwasher would have a handle (my old one didn’t). So now the top drawer will hit it. The other two will be fine. What do you guys suggest?

And while I’m here – a few before and afters.

Before (actually, right after I put a fresh coat of nice orange peely white on the cabinets about ten years ago)

About half way through demolition (Thanksgiving evening). The kitchen holds the washer and dryer – that was difficult to design around. I pulled out a couple walls that held the W/D and refrigerator – and frankly just took up space. It’s a fairly small kitchen and we wanted as much room as we could get.

Fresh sheetrock and paint and the start of 850 sqft of red oak flooring to go through the entire first floor. Notice later how I boxed out the drain pipes that were hidden in the original soffit.

First cabinets set. I built simple frameless cabs with shaker style doors.

All cabinets set. Still need to build cab for stacked W/D.

W/D cab, countertop, crown moulding and appliances in (except for dishwasher!) There’s a 6” deep broom closet on the facing-you side of the W/D cabinet. And flooring completed! Ouch my hands hurt.

Now it’s on to adding cabinet inserts and doors. Touch-up painting and we’re pretty close to home. Goal is to be finished by Christmas.

If I can just figure out how to fit that drawer in…

Oh – and in case anyone is wondering, that is a real cat.

-- Anything is possible when you have no idea what you're talking about.

31 replies so far

View RockyTopScott's profile


1186 posts in 3472 days

#1 posted 12-18-2013 03:07 PM

Make a pull-out cutting board that rest above the DW handle and make a small drawer that clears below the DW handle.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

View distrbd's profile


2252 posts in 2440 days

#2 posted 12-18-2013 03:09 PM

Unfortunately that seems to be a common mistake,I know ,I made the same mistake when I installed our cabinets.

The only difference was ,I noticed the problem before the counter was put on.All I needed to to was to move the cabinets over by two inches and add a strip of wood as a filler ,but you can’t do that since your counter is already installed.

I hope some one will chime in and give you an acceptable solution,my only suggestion is to remove the drawer and add a fake drawer front (non functional)to cover the hole and make it look good like a real drawer with a handle and all. ,use the extra space you gain for not having a drawer, to store taller items in the bottom cabinet.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

View MrTweedle's profile


4 posts in 1624 days

#3 posted 12-18-2013 03:15 PM

Make a low profile wood handle to replace the existing metal one if there is any amount of clearance?

View BentheViking's profile


1782 posts in 2557 days

#4 posted 12-18-2013 03:25 PM

I had a similar experience to Ken once when installing a kitchen (it hit another drawer pull rather than the dishwasher.

I think if I were you I wouldn’t rush into anything. Assuming you can still access the drawer if the dishwasher was open then I’d just run with that solution and see how bothersome it is and then think of a solution. Call it “charm”

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

View DS's profile


2916 posts in 2414 days

#5 posted 12-18-2013 03:31 PM

The drawer really needs to be spaced over to clear the handle.
If you are able to modify the drawers your could insert a filler on the left side and reduce the drawer width to clear.

Unfortunately there is no easy fix at the stage you are at. Your door and drawer front would also need to be smaller.

Even without a handle on the dishwasher, I would want the clearance to the adjacent cabinets. Most of the time, it is a situation of two adjacent cabinets having pulls or knobs that would interfere with each other. Same solution—space the corners with fillers.

Best of luck to you.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

View david_larch's profile


102 posts in 2295 days

#6 posted 12-18-2013 03:54 PM

I would remake the drawer narrower and under mount slides. With a drawer face and matching filler it would look pretty normal. In a corner like that it will be harder to notice.


View waho6o9's profile


8187 posts in 2570 days

#7 posted 12-18-2013 04:06 PM

There’s some door hardware that can open and miss the handle and then

make pull outs that miss said obstacles.

View Bullet's profile


150 posts in 3323 days

#8 posted 12-18-2013 04:15 PM

Waho – I was thinking that too. Put the drawers behind a door.

I was also thinking to just eliminate the top drawer and make an open shelf there. Maybe with a pull out basket or something for a junk drawer.

-- Anything is possible when you have no idea what you're talking about.

View waho6o9's profile


8187 posts in 2570 days

#9 posted 12-18-2013 04:22 PM


View oldnovice's profile (online now)


6826 posts in 3361 days

#10 posted 12-18-2013 05:40 PM

Don’t feel too bad I have seen the DW/drawer issue a number of times even on old instalations, not remodels.

We bought a Bosch DW that does not have a handle to not have that issue!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

View copcarcollector's profile


256 posts in 2110 days

#11 posted 12-18-2013 08:38 PM

No suggestions – but nice work! Like to see some finished shots when you are done.

View 404 - Not Found's profile

404 - Not Found

2544 posts in 2962 days

#12 posted 12-18-2013 08:40 PM

Make the drawers narrower and put in a divider for a tray space. You could pocket screw the divider into that as the drawers will obscure the hole.
Alternatively, you could just open the dishwasher before opening the drawer.

View Earlextech's profile


1161 posts in 2684 days

#13 posted 12-18-2013 09:17 PM

For those of you hoping to avoid this in the future there should always be a 3” filler in both directions out of a corner. Usually doing this happens only once.
Otherwise it’s a beautiful project!

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "Finished"!

View wiwildcat's profile


58 posts in 1955 days

#14 posted 12-18-2013 09:23 PM

1.Put in a filler in both the drawer opening and door opening. Make a new drawer and door that is not as wide.
2.Another option would be not to use that drawer.
3.Remove the drawer and make a taller door to fit the entire opening.
4.Remove drawer, turn the space into a wine rack for 3-4 bottles.
5. Remove the cabinet, build another.

Thats all I got, hope these ideas help.

-- Wisconsin Wildcat

View huff's profile


2828 posts in 3278 days

#15 posted 12-18-2013 09:35 PM

bullet, Are you sure you’re not going to run into the same problem with the range oven door hitting the knobs on the sink cabinet when those door are mounted? Sam is correct when he mentioned having a 3” filler,each direction, in each corner. Beautiful work,hope all works out OK.

-- John @

showing 1 through 15 of 31 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics