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Forum topic by DKV posted 12-16-2013 01:29 AM 1466 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-16-2013 01:29 AM

I have been dinking around with woodworking for about six years and seriously dinking around with woodworking for about three. It has taken me this long to come to the realization that what I’ve been hearing about using decent saws is true. Everything I read and all the videos I watch talk about how the saw is supposed to help you make the cut. Until this weekend I have not been able to cut a straight line to save my life.

On Friday I received my Veritas rip and crosscut saws. Put them to work this weekend and now I understand. This evening I’m going to see if they help me with my dovetails.

How many of you guys have had “understanding breakthroughs” comparable to mine? I used to think a saw was a saw was a saw. Now I know better. Any “light bulb” moments you guys would like to share?

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#1 posted 12-16-2013 01:32 AM

The day I switched from the crappy blade that came with my first table saw to a Freud 50t…eye opening indeed.

-- Nick, “I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it.” – Vincent Van Gogh

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#2 posted 12-16-2013 01:34 AM

Once I finally learned how to set up my hand planes it was a serious “ah hah” moment. Now I use them literally every day! Now I’m trying to learn how to sharpen my saws and I hope that I have the same kind of revelation.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#3 posted 12-16-2013 01:44 AM

A Veritas block plane, very enlightening. I can get a shaving on end grain.

-- Nicky

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#4 posted 12-16-2013 02:14 AM

I agree having quality tools will make a major difference. However, it also can be difficult to afford. A little at a time and you can fill your tool chest.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#5 posted 12-16-2013 03:06 AM

The discovery of a well tune plane was a wonder. I first started with a cheap eastern plane. Hated it.

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#6 posted 12-16-2013 03:27 AM

West Systems Epoxy…

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#7 posted 12-16-2013 03:38 AM

ive only used saws so bad I can’t even fathom the truthfulness in what your saying

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#8 posted 12-16-2013 06:11 AM

That feeling is validation for any tool purchase that it was money well spent. For me, the biggest moments for me were from a table saw upgrade about ten years ago, and a Lie Nielsen hand plane purchase.

-- PaulMayer,

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#9 posted 12-16-2013 06:24 AM

Sharp tools are the go to. Brand names are cool, new is super cool, but it is sharp that does the job. When you think the tool you are using is or has gone to crap, SHARPEN it. Now that is the ah ha moment.

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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#10 posted 12-16-2013 06:42 AM

+1 jumbo jack. When I truly sharpened my hand planes correctly and waxed the sole that was my ahh ha moment, like melted butter…

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#11 posted 12-16-2013 06:49 AM

i’ll have to look at getting the dovetail veritas saw. i’ve been using a Japanese saw. I get that.. flimsy waaaay to light feeling of control and seem to be 1/16th or 1/32nd out of line (such matters when practicing dovetails). Westerners do not like “lightweight” very much: manufactures actually put weights in tv remote control and computer mice!

DKV… i see 2 veritas saws pictured. i already have a rip & crosscut veritas saws for tenon work. that is just 1 saw for dovetail use, right?

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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#12 posted 12-16-2013 06:55 AM

Jumbo, I agree. Sharp and heft is what it’s all about. Eventually I will have to learn how to sharpen saws now that I have two good ones.

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#13 posted 12-16-2013 04:33 PM

I think I saw those Veritas saws on sale somewhere recently.

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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#14 posted 12-16-2013 07:24 PM

Jumbo, just my luck…

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#15 posted 12-16-2013 07:40 PM

When I bought my router, it came with a set of low quality router bits. I was having trouble getting decent cuts and assumed it was because my router (9 amps) was under powered. I bought some higher quality carbide bits (Samona brand, made in the same factory as Lee Valley bits), and they cut like a hot knife through butter, and give a very smooth finish.

Before this, I used to think $10-$30 for a single router bit was astronomical (actually had quite a bit of sticker shock when I first got into wood working), but now I understand.

-- Jeffrey S. Ovens, Canada

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