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Forum topic by MrHart posted 12-11-2013 03:45 AM 969 views 1 time favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-11-2013 03:45 AM

Good evening all.

I’m ready to glue up a few boxes (aprox 7×5x6 high). They have miter cut corners and I intend on splining them afterwards. However what type of tape would you all suggest for glue up and do you just tape it up dry and then unfold it-glue-and wrap it back up?
What about rubber bands and/or clamps?

-- MrHart


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#1 posted 12-11-2013 03:57 AM

I’ve never used tape. No clamping pressure. I use several types of clamps. Depends on the box…

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#2 posted 12-11-2013 04:07 AM

I use the blue painters tape just to hold it in place then wrap it with stretch wrap or elastic tape (Non Adhesive) for added pressure. The more you wrap it, the tighter it gets. I lay the tape sticky side up and lay the parts directly on the tape, apply the glue and fold it up, wrap it and walk away until the next day. It dosen’t take that long to dry but I usually do several at a time.

John

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#3 posted 12-11-2013 04:24 AM

My approach is a bit opposite of John’s …..I lay the four pieces face up in the correct orientation all in a row. Align and apply tape to mating pieces. Turn the whole thing over carefully face down. Apply glue into all the “V’s”. Apply glue to each end that wasn’t taped. Carefully fold into the box and apply tape to the last corner holding it all together….piece of cake

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#4 posted 12-11-2013 05:14 AM

I think member a1Jim posted a forum on clamping mitered corners a long time ago. In the forum, there were several methods and comments. If I remember correctly, maybe he will see your question and provide his insite

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#5 posted 12-11-2013 05:59 AM

Use hot hide glue and you’ll hardly even need the tape. You also won’t have to worry about stain or finish problems, oh yes and it’s faster. ..... Just sayin’......

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Hot hide glue miter joints

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#6 posted 12-11-2013 02:51 PM

I use white glue on this type of joint and I assemble the four pieces using a two inch piece of masking tape at each corner. Install two or more rubber bands around this box frame and remove the tape. Set aside to dry. I make a lot of 7 1/2” x 11” x 2” deep cedar boxes that I did like this. After making about 500 of these boxes I made a jig to hold the pieces upright while I put on the rubber bands and omit the tape.

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#7 posted 12-11-2013 03:21 PM

I use kdc68’s method as well. Blue tape is all you need.

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#8 posted 12-11-2013 03:57 PM

Gray, what kind of clamps are those?

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#9 posted 12-11-2013 04:47 PM

I use regular masking tape.
The trick for me is to use three or 4 layers of tape. Each layer will apply more pressure to the joint.
You can see in the illustration below:

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#10 posted 12-11-2013 05:11 PM

You can get those Threaded bar clamps at Rockler/Woodcraft and woodworkers supply
they are threaded rods with plastic corners that the rods slide through, then you have Knurled brass nuts that slide up and tighten against the plastic corners.

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#11 posted 12-11-2013 05:38 PM

Got this at the local craft store. “SUREBONDER” patented. You press lever and tape extends out a few inches so you can stick it to side of box and start pulling, and as long as you keep lever pressed tape continues pulling out. Release lever and tape cuts. Can be done with one hand. Have done 7 or 8 boxes with it and I love it. Tape is about 3/4 inch wide.

DanP

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#12 posted 12-11-2013 05:40 PM

I use the strap clamps tape doesnt work for me

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#13 posted 12-11-2013 06:03 PM

Good tip on the masking tape..

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#14 posted 12-11-2013 06:32 PM

I’ve used a product called “Xtreme Tape”- stretches and doesn’t leave a residue to clean up and only sticks to itself, bought it to clamp non 90 degree box. Masking tape didn’t work for me. I think I got it from Peachtree….probably available from other woodworking outlets.

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#15 posted 12-11-2013 09:35 PM

I guess you have cut the components already, but if you didn’t see Britboxmaker’s blog on how he makes boxes: http://lumberjocks.com/BritBoxmaker/blog/17048 and the follow-up where he uses a router for cutting: http://lumberjocks.com/BritBoxmaker/blog/23229 you might take a look and consider his method in future.

You get wonderfully precise joints and total grain continuity if you cut from a large single board.

-- Don, Somerset UK, http://www.donjohnson24.co.uk

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