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Forum topic by Nicopernicus posted 12-10-2013 03:57 PM 1034 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-10-2013 03:57 PM

I have discovered over the years., That at least in my shop, Biscuit joiners are a huge waste of time. I have two of them and piles of biscuits to mate….never to be used again unless a dire arrangement surfaces…ie., inabilty to clamp due to complicated geometry first coming to mind.

Am I missing something? With my experience and the years clicking away (chalk it up as valuable…) I have yet to find a problem with a properly glued joint. The surfacing of the material to be joined with some layup forethought and proper closure in a clamping system clearly a must…

With the glues available these days… That joint ain’t ever going anywhere.

The reason for the commentary is the price of some of these items with the unbelievable crazed dollars being shelled out for Fein and Festool biscuit joiners.

Are folks still buying these things? Are there worthy projects that are Joiner directed?

In a world of obsessive tool freaks with gotta have this and that’s on every shelf…is this just another tool headed for the heap?

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#1 posted 12-10-2013 04:19 PM

Have one stopped using it when i got a pocket hole jig

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#2 posted 12-10-2013 04:30 PM

Which joiner to use is a personal decision. And, personally, I’m on my third biscuit joiner and enjoying it thouroughly. My first was a DeWalt and it did a great job IMHO, second a Porter Cable which I rated okay, and a couple of years ago I acquired a Lamello Top 20 s4 which is extremely accurate and absolutely the best. I also have a Festool Domino. However, I confess I’m a “toolaholic.”

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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#3 posted 12-10-2013 05:38 PM

I love my makita biscuit jointer. I don’t pretend tat it’s making the joint that much stronger, but when gluing up multiple boards, it makes my life much easier.

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#4 posted 12-10-2013 05:43 PM

They are most useful for angled and compound angle joinery
involving end grain where they can save time over other
methods. If all you do it square joinery it’s not too hard
to use router loose tenon, mortise and tenons, dowels, etc.

For sheet goods I used to use biscuits to align and hold
glue in pre-finished ply. Then I’d put in countersunk screws
from the outside. The consistency and squareness was
pretty good but it was a fuss. Now I use a Confirmat
drilling machine and it’s much faster. Nobody talks about
it anymore, but in the old days pros uses to tongue
and groove on the table saw and got real fast at the setups.

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#5 posted 12-10-2013 05:53 PM

Just like Norm the biscuit joiner has diminished in it’s popularity and use. It still can be used in a fair amount of joinery situations but usually there are more efficient and stronger ways to go.

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#6 posted 12-10-2013 06:55 PM

I’ll use mine when I’m trimming out doors and window with wide trim. its an extra step but It keeps everything in line.

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#7 posted 12-10-2013 07:25 PM

I rarely use mine either but when making cutting boards if I have a glue up that requires end grain to end grain to get the desired look and pattern, I will use biscuits to add some strength.

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#8 posted 12-10-2013 07:45 PM

I don’t have a biscuit joiner and don’t believe I need one. For combining board I have used tongue and groove, slow but once you get it dialed in, works great. Then I got the Kreg system, and love it. Only draw back is the pocket holes. If hidden it’s real effective. I have a coffee table my Mom restored back in the 1960s and when I looked under it to see how its made, surprise, I found pocket holes!

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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#9 posted 12-10-2013 09:38 PM

I have one from Dewalt that I got second hand for cheap and have tried to use a couple times to help with alignment, and it was always too loose in all directions to be of any help. And I was careful to set the depth for the biscuits that I was using. Maybe it was off.

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#10 posted 12-10-2013 09:42 PM

LeChuck—The DeWalt I had was great when it was new, but with age it got sloppy just like you’re describing and that is why I replaced it. The Porter Cable was okay, but I just never got into it.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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