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toddbeaulieu

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12-09-2013 03:41 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router

I finally coughed up the dough for the Incra LS 25, their 43” top and their (Jessem) Mast R Lift II. Grabbed the CleanSweep enclosure and rings, as well.

I’m about to (finally) build my dream router table during my new yearly XMAS BARN GETAWAY. In this treasured tradition I schedule as many contiguous days off so I can hide in my workshop, slaving away for twelve+ hour days hoping to come out with all my digits and a new creation. Last year marked the birth of my workbench. I have a hybrid of Norm’s table in mind. I might leave the CleanSweep exposed, but surrounded with drawers.

Since I’m going to be in hot water for spending all this money I figured I should get some more mileage out of it with a new router. My current router, a Porter Cable 690 has served me quite well, even on panels, but I figured I’d go all out. Plus, I hate having a single router for table/hand use.

Surprisingly, I’ve been unable to turn up any “shoot out” reviews for fixed motors. Does anyone have any opinions on options? Without any other information I’d just go with the PC 75182, which seems to be the defacto standard. Frankly, I’m not even sure what my options are bare motors.

I’m also considering a speed control so I don’t have to open the CleanSweep to make adjustments. So far I’m nervous and skeptical based on the reviews I’ve read.

Thanks for any opinions!


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#1 posted 12-09-2013 04:24 PM

Router lifts are generally a certain size so all routers may not fit the lift you have. If it will fit I recommend 7519 speedomatic

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#2 posted 12-09-2013 04:47 PM

Milwaukee 3.5hp, if it will fit.

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toddbeaulieu

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#3 posted 12-09-2013 04:58 PM

Good point Jim. I just found a list of routers that the Jessem II accepts.

The 7519 isn’t on the list, but is probably the same footprint as the 75182. It’s a fixed speed though! After reading a lot of reviews on the external speed controllers I’m super nervous about going down that route.

The Milwaukee is on the list and is about the same price as the PC. Wish I could see them both to help decide. For all I know there’s “something” that I like or dislike on one of them.

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#4 posted 12-09-2013 05:01 PM

I went with the 7518 in the Jessem lift. I couldn’t be happier.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#5 posted 12-09-2013 05:17 PM

I also put the 7518 on my incra jessem lift, which does have speed control by the way. I can’t speak to external speed controllers, but my plan is to, once my clean sweep shroud thing arrives is to put a sticker on the outside telling me which way the slider goes for faster and slower so i can adjust it without a mirror and a flashlight.

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#6 posted 12-10-2013 01:31 AM

I had a PC 7518 under my table with no lift. After pricing a lifts, I pulled the 7518 out and replaced it with a 3.25 HP Triton TRA001 ($250) with above table adjustment and excellent dust collection. The Triton also automatically locks the spindle when you raise it all the way for one-wrench, above table, bit changes. I couldn’t be happier and The router cost less than a good lift. There are other makes of routers that work under the table without a lift, too. I think the router lift’s days may be numbered.

Bill

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#7 posted 12-10-2013 03:44 AM

Where is that list of what the Jessem will hold? I checked their website and the manual for my lift but wasn’t able to find anything.

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#8 posted 12-10-2013 10:03 AM

MW5625

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#9 posted 12-10-2013 11:58 AM

Bill +10
I have been totally happy with my Triton routers, the largest of which I keep in the TS router extension. The built-in lift mechanism is accurate to 1/128in using the supplied crank. I am sure you will enjoy the Jessem and the dream project as well, but if you find the need for a second router table, the Triton makes such a project very affordable. Just my 2-cents…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#10 posted 12-10-2013 12:56 PM

I went with the 75182 in the Jessem lift. I couldn’t be happier.

299.00, free shipping, 3 1/4 HP., not too loud, soft start, variable speed, It’s a PC. big fan.

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#11 posted 12-10-2013 02:12 PM

I pulled the trigger yesterday and ordered the Milwaukee 5626. The moment I saw it I KNEW that was the router of my dreams! I got lucky because it’s been discontinued but I found ONE on Amazon. This is the 5625 with the speed controller removed and tethered. I’m really excited about having an external speed control so I don’t have to mess around under the table. Yes, this is a simple creature feature but one that I really like. I paid $400 which is WAY more than I had in mind, but an external speed controller would have been another $50 or so, but …

I did some research yesterday on external third party controllers and am personally convinced none of them is a good solution for a router. Simply throttling the voltage (never mind converting it a square wave) is woefully inferior to how the good routers’ speed controls work, especially when you consider feedback monitoring.

Jonah, I have the Incra branded Jessem, which I believe is identical. I found the list of compatible routers on their page.

Porter Cable 7518, 690-699 series, & 890-899 series
Bosch 1617EVS,1618
DeWalt DW610 & DW618
Makita RF1101 & RD1101
Hitachi M12VC & KM12VC
Milwaukee 5625, 5615, 5616, & 5619
Craftsman 17543, 17540, & 28190
Ridgid R29302

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#12 posted 12-10-2013 03:20 PM

Having used a lot of Milwaukee tools in industrial situations I’ve gained a lot of confidence in them. So I put a Milwaukee 5625 in mine. I can take it out and put it in it’s base when I have the need to.

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#13 posted 12-12-2013 09:41 PM

That 5626 is pretty slick, especially since you don’t have to feel around under the table for the speed control knob.

Bill, I’d have to agree with you on the router lift’s days being numbered. I reminded on when Freud began making routers since they had been so successful making bits for so long. It wouldn’t take much for one of the router manufacturers to incorporate something into a router that was meant just for table duty. It wouldn’t take one of the bigger lift companies to start making their own router either. It will be interesting to see which comes first and how much it costs.

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toddbeaulieu

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#14 posted 12-17-2013 10:30 PM

OH MY is the Milwaukee a sweet router! That external power supply is AMAZING!

The PS is a bit large, though, so I have to find a way to work it into the new table. The tether to the motor is a bit short, which will play into the location.

When that bad boy’s turning at full speed I’m bit scared of it, to be honest!

Thanks for the help all!

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toddbeaulieu

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#15 posted 12-17-2013 11:08 PM

OH MY is the Milwaukee a sweet router! That external power supply is AMAZING!

The PS is a bit large, though, so I have to find a way to work it into the new table. The tether to the motor is a bit short, which will play into the location.

When that bad boy’s turning at full speed I’m bit scared of it, to be honest!

Thanks for the help all!

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