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darthford

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12-07-2013 05:14 PM

After months of cruising my local craigslist I finally came across a machine tool that seems like a good value, this is an 18” Delta Rockwell RAS. I became interested in it after visiting Home Depot yesterday, Home Depot has a Delta RAS at least 18” with BIG iron, bigger than this one. I had tool envy and started searching Craigslist when I got home and found this one below. I can see the RAS’s are not fetching much price wise though I see bigger ones like this with asking prices north of $1,000 to $2,000 on the internet. $250 is it a smoking deal or nothing special? FYI I’m not concerned about it being 3 phase.


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#1 posted 12-07-2013 05:28 PM

Blades have to be a bit pricey? Seems like a helluva deal though.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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#2 posted 12-07-2013 05:59 PM

That’s a smoking deal, if you can otherwise deal with it (size/weight/power/blades/space/whatever). Actually I suspect the size of it may be why it’s a smoking deal.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#3 posted 12-07-2013 06:15 PM

I would imagine you could saw through some pretty hefty stock with that. I would be concerned about he 3 phase issue as well, but an electrician may be able to convert to single phase set up? $250 seems like a good price to me.

-- atta boy Clarence!

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#4 posted 12-07-2013 06:30 PM

RAS blades are different then table saw blades. the rake on the teeth are different to prevent the saw from shooting across the wood.

i have never owned a RAS… but i used one 1 time haha.
I’m just forwarding the information that i have heard.

-- David Henley

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#5 posted 12-07-2013 06:31 PM

I have a 1958 AMF 9” RAS bought new. I do not have a table saw & do not want one. If you buy a RAS be sure that you purchase a book dealing specifically with the do’s & don’t’s in the safe operation of one. When I bought mine I also bought such a book authored by a Serviceman of American Machine & Foundry which also included how to set it up & maintain it. The advantages of an RAS over a table saw is that the RAS can do at least 20 operations that a table saw cannot. I have all of my fingers and have never had a kickback that got past the blade guard(thanks to the book).

Lee

-- Lee

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#6 posted 12-07-2013 06:53 PM

Darthford, -5 Degree hook angle blades recommended for RAS. And be extra cautious when trying to rip using its norman fence. I almost had a critical accident with my 10 incher in 1979 and haven’t tried that since. Great for cross-cutting long thick stock accurately, if you have extensions on either side of the table. Because of space I have to use temporary stands/roller tables for the long stuff. I MUST check my pull/draw of the carriage before each use since an accurate 90 degree set-up is almost impossible to maintain. Tends to slip 1/2 to 11/2 degreesafter 6-10 cuts. It’s not just the Craftsman saws of yesteryear that this is a problem with I’m told. But, that one is a massive professional, production saw so probably not an issue. Thanks for showing.

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#7 posted 12-07-2013 07:07 PM

I would use this for cross cuts and miters only, I have a 12” 5hp table saw for ripping. I see one leg is bent and needs beat on with a hammer. The ad lists it at 5HP but the close up of the control says 7.5HP. It looks almost too clean I’m hoping it hasn’t been re-painted and maybe it was pulled out of a school or something. Its cheap enough that I could modify it without worrying about re-sell value. Fence with adjustable stops and clamps, I could see clamping down every cut with this thing. All would depend on condition I’m not interested in buying some clapped out saw.

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#8 posted 12-07-2013 07:08 PM

I paid $200 for a 14” Delta RAS similar to the 18” above and have been very happy with it.
It holds alignment very well. Mine has a crosscut capacity of around 22”.

-- Scott Smith, Southern Illinois

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LeeinEdmonton

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#9 posted 12-07-2013 09:27 PM

The above comments reflect what happened to the RAS when American Machine & Foundry sold their tool line to Black & Decker. Manufacture was cheapened hence few of the newer RAS machines hold their settings & require frequent adjustments. My machine holds it’s settings and as I was transferred from Calgary to Vancouver to Toronto then back to Vancouver & on retirement moved to Edmonton. I checked the settings of my saw after the moves & at most only minor adjustments were required. Currently my saw is dead accurate & it was so long ago that I last adjusted it that I cannot remember how long ago that was. I have replaced the table once. I confess that when I rip with it I use feather boards clamped to the fence & table.I NEVER reach behind the blade when ripping to hold material against the fence mainly because if you do get a kickback & even if the lumber does not get past the front of the blade guard the sudden movement to the wood in a kickback can jerk your hand into the back of the blade. All of this info is available in a good book on the operation of the RAS.

Lee

-- Lee

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dahenley

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#10 posted 12-07-2013 10:49 PM

something to think about….
the motor could be 5HP (and upgradable to 7.5???)
but the switch might be capable of handling up to 7.5? that might be why its labeled. (mag switches for table saws are the same way)

but the motor is what would tell you the truth.

good luck! (can’t wait for another blog entry haha)

-- David Henley

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#11 posted 12-07-2013 11:30 PM

blog…I’m heading to lunch to cool off before I drop kick my computer. I just spent the last 3 hours creating a video out of the clips I recorded yesterday, its awesome, its high definition…its 8 gigabytes and Youtube says it will take about 4 weeks to upload it (CENSORED!)

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#12 posted 12-07-2013 11:34 PM

4 weeks hahaha

-- David Henley

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#13 posted 12-08-2013 12:35 AM

Where I used to work we had an old DeWalt 18” 7.5hp RAS that after a little modification to the bottom of the motor housing would cut through 6x dimensional lumber. The travel was huge too, it would cut through six 6” x 6” in one pass!

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#14 posted 12-08-2013 12:41 AM

Darthford – What video type is the file? Download a program called Handbrake it’s free and convert the video to a better conversion like mp4 or mkv it should be significantly smaller unless you recorded a 2 day video.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#15 posted 12-08-2013 01:19 AM

I got the video figured out finally and shrank it to 17mb, just posted it on Youtube and my blog here. This Sony Vegas software I have is about 5 years old and the .wmv format is especially prone to crashing the thing. It took 3 tries, finally had to reboot, click Render then don’t touch anything until it finishes.

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