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ohtimberwolf

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273 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: pin oak pallet

About to take down two huge pin oak trees over 80 ft tall. They tell me the wood is no good for anything but fireplace, railroad ties or pallets. Can anyone tell me why this is?

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Loren

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#1 posted 273 days ago

Well, a lot of species are not commercially viable to the
lumber industry, but for you the trees might yield
some wood you can use.

You might ask on the Forestry forums where there
a lot of people who know plenty about this kind
of small-scale lumbermaking.

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mpsprunger

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#2 posted 273 days ago

I’ve used it to build a nice chest. the wood looks very and finishes as regular oak did. i had it sawed and
kiln dried very well. I will use it again cause I have plenty

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JJohnston

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#3 posted 273 days ago

I don’t know that “good for railroad ties” = “no good for woodworking”. They used to use old growth chestnut for railroad ties until the blight got it.

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ohtimberwolf

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#4 posted 273 days ago

Maybe it is a local thing. Sometimes when people get something into their head they can’t get it out and pass it on as cut in stone. Thanks guys.

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hydro

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#5 posted 273 days ago

Sounds like a case of “Ignorance is Bliss” on the nay sayers. Marcus’ comment is empirical proof that the wood is indeed useable. Time to get it to the sawmill!

-- Minnesota Woodworkers Guild, Past President, Lifetime member.

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#6 posted 273 days ago

I want to see some pictures of this stuff after you get it milled. If I were you I’d quarter saw one of those logs.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#7 posted 273 days ago

It’s the Man’s way of keeping us down – a big conspiracy on the part of the Military-Forestry-Complex. The same robber-barons that own big-banking and big-oil also control the harvesting rights to our nation’s wood preserves. They want to keep us hooked on their oak, walnut and cherry and when it runs out they’ll push into their cheap common hormone-fed pine. But it won’t be so cheap then, no they’ll have bought their senators and put all sorts of protectionist tariffs on imported exotics. Mark my words people! You’ll be building your grand-daughter a china hutch using 30 dollar 2×4s. Me? I’m hoarding the good stuff in my bomb shelter and waiting out the storm….

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#8 posted 273 days ago

^ that’s just an awesome post! LOL!!!!

I tend to think every piece of wood has its use. I recently did well with a piece of oak firewood that I sawed into useable boards and the cutting board that resulted had a really nice grain to it. You might be surprised at how nice that pine is once you start milling it.

-- Thank you Lord for the passion and ability to make things from your creation.

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mrjinx007

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#9 posted 273 days ago

Pine oak; never heard of it. Maybe what they call here in the south as post oak. either way, the trunks near the roots should provide some nice grain regardless of what kind of oak it is.

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ksSlim

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#10 posted 273 days ago

Pin Oak is a member of the RedOak family. One of its’s many charms is many branches.
That being said, Knots galore. Properly sawn and dried, it is Red Oak lumber.
Red Oak is very common in some areas. Years ago, in my neck of the woods,
they cut Black Walnut for railroad ties.
To me, that was totaly against anything a woodworker could understand.

Got wood, make use of it, any way, any how, any time.

-- Sawdust and shavings are therapeutic

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AlaskaGuy

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#11 posted 273 days ago

Sometime you just have to ask Google.

http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/pin-oak/

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ohtimberwolf

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#12 posted 273 days ago

Thanks for all the help guys, lots of good info and thanks Alaska for the link—very informative. Now, for the bad.

The saw mill will NOT take them because they are in front of my home ( yard trees ). Three feet around and logs up 20 feet to the limbs that have not been trimmed off in the past 60 or 70 years. If even one of these fell on my house it would totally destroy it.

Thought I might be able to get a nice pile of lumber out of them but I guess they will have to go as I have no way of getting them sawn. $3125 to get them down, hauled away, ground out roots , 2 (20ft diameter spread) and 16 shrubs 55yrs old taken out, roots ground and all of this filled and leveled with mulch until the winter is over. Just thought I might get SOMETHING out of such big trees besides a bill.

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fumehappy

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#13 posted 273 days ago

Well you could try splitting/riving into flitches. Try a knot free three or four foot section. Works great!

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richardwootton

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#14 posted 273 days ago

Well it would be cheaper to buy a big a$$ chain saw and a chain saw mill and just have an arborist fell the trees for you then mill it yourself. Then you could keep the saw and mill to use for further use, or you could sell it and recoup a part of your money.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#15 posted 273 days ago

I love proving people wrong and using wood everyone thinks is junk. Prove them wrong and lets see what you can do.

-- Ted ,Conesus,N.Y.

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