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Donald's Woodshop

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11-28-2013 03:44 AM

I currently have a PC 892 in my router table. My father-in-law wants to know what I want for christmas and I was thinking of getting a second router. I do not plan on using it with very large bits. Thinking about the PC 690 combo one with the fixed/plunge bases. Any disadvantage going with a fixed speed? Any others you guys would recommend? Thanks in advance.

-- Imperfections make it unique!


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firefighterontheside

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#1 posted 11-28-2013 04:00 AM

I don’t think I would have a single speed router. It seems to me that even a 3/4 round over at the high speed may be too high. I would recommend the hitachi combo. It’s 2 1/4 horse, variable speed, soft start, two collets. It is now my second router since I bought a bigger triton. It’s been a great router for about 7 years for me.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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a1Jim

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#2 posted 11-28-2013 06:32 AM

I have about 40 routers and always grab for my PC 691 “D” handle . If your going to use your second router for hand held operations then variable speed is not that important. I recommend to my studentsthat that they have at least 3 routers one larger router with variable spead for a router table,a plunge router, and a good hand held router. I like PC routers but there are more brands out there with other bells and whistiles like led lights,soft start and micro adjustment.

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Loren

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#3 posted 11-28-2013 08:09 AM

I like the Milwaukee bodygrip style for control. I bought it
when I was fooling around with one of those inset edgebanding
setups for edging plywood – Burgess Edge. It was impractical
because it took too much time, but the router was up
to the task in terms of how it handled…. the slightest
tip of the base would wreck the cut.

I usually run my variable speed routers slower than maximum
but it’s mostly because I don’t like routers much, don’t
feed real fast and prefer the lower noise levels. 20,000 rpm
or so is about optimum for smaller router cutters in my
experience and allows pretty quick feeding.

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DocSavage45

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#4 posted 11-28-2013 02:40 PM

Good advice here. If it were me and it often is…LOL I ask for advice check the reviews on Amazon and LJ’s and buy the best I can afford.

Variable speed routers may have problems. I like Milwaukee tools as they use to have a lifetime guarantee. Yet I was going to buy the big Milwaukee router but there were many criticisms about faulty speed controls.

Oh yeah I always stay away from a brand that has a lot of factory rebuilt in same model.

The PC D handle appears to be near the top of my list. Triton seems to get good reviews.

Got my PC with two bases as a Christmas present, Motor just sounds like quality.

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mantwi

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#5 posted 11-28-2013 02:53 PM

In almost 40 years of using a router I have never had an issue with using fixed speed routers that couldn’t be dealt with by adjusting the feed rate or climb cutting. I am speaking about edge routing here as I have always used a small shaper for any panel raising etc. I use the 690 routers and the combo set is a great little set up. I use the climb cutting technique in difficult grain. Taking a smaller cut while running the router in the opposite direction will yield a flawless surface in the most ornery materials. The PC is a solid performer and you won’t be sorry if it’s under your tree this year.

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GOOD LUCK TO ALL

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#6 posted 11-28-2013 03:19 PM

I’m in total agreement with mantwi. My experience resembles the same…

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felkadelic

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#7 posted 11-28-2013 03:22 PM

I’d seriously look at a smaller router for handheld use. Maybe a Dewalt 611 or the equivalent P-C model. You might have to rebuy some bits since they only take 1/4” shank bits, but I find myself reaching for the 611 a lot more often than my 690 (I have a Bosch 1617 in a router lift in the table also)

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knotscott

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#8 posted 11-28-2013 03:37 PM

Get what feels good in your hands. I happen to be fond of the Milwaukee 5615 and Hitachi M12V (has variable speed).

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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fuigb

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#9 posted 11-28-2013 04:14 PM

Small handheld for odd jobs and situations where you just aren’t in the mood to sling the big and heavy #1. I picked up a Bosch Colt because it only cost me points earned on my credit card and, well, it looked cute. I had the vague sense that it would be useful and I’ll be damned if it hasn’t become my go-to for a many tasks. Try one and I’m sure that you’ll soon see your projects in a new light.

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distrbd

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#10 posted 11-28-2013 05:20 PM

When I use my variable speed router I always adjust the speed depending on the size of the bit in it.small bits and big bit have a different “sweet spot” that makes the router run with least amount of vibration or excessive noise,so for me a variable speed is an important feature in a router,on the other hand,a soft start is not.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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Donald's Woodshop

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#11 posted 11-28-2013 09:47 PM

I really want to end up getting 2 more. A small one like the PC 450 and a midsized i guess like the Bosch or PC 690. Still cant decide which one I want first.

-- Imperfections make it unique!

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bowedcurly

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#12 posted 11-29-2013 11:11 PM

I would get the Bosch Colt plunge and stationary base great router I have the 450 PC and the Bosch Like the Colt much better and you will use the small router tons

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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bowedcurly

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#13 posted 11-29-2013 11:12 PM

the palm router is really my workhorse it’s quick light and very easy to use

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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bowedcurly

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#14 posted 11-29-2013 11:16 PM

really I would get the Milwaukee 3 1/2 hp it has the best router table setup and a colt plunge with stationary base put the milwaukee in the table it will handle any raised panel bit and the colt you will use all the time and your 892 for heavy work free hand have a good day

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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#15 posted 11-29-2013 11:35 PM

I personally feel there are better values to be had over the PC 690 series. Don’t get me wrong, the 690 has been a staple for years…..for good reason.
But in addition to the routers that have already been mentioned, you should take a look at the Craftsman Professional Series as a dark horse option. Very well reviewed. $144 for a fixed/plunge base, 2.5hp router that acccepts PC guide bushings.

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