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Forum topic by ToddJB posted 11-26-2013 05:55 PM 3107 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-26-2013 05:55 PM

All,

I’ve done some interweb searching and I can’t seem to find a good tutorial for removing/replacing the Lateral Adjustment Lever. Do you know of any that you might direct me to? Preferably with pics or a video?

All I have found are people saying that this needs to be a delicate process out of fear of frog breakage, but not a whole lot of details other than that.

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#1 posted 11-26-2013 06:43 PM

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?140269-lateral-adjustment-rivet

Try “Peening a lateral lever on a hand plane”

I came up with some info

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#2 posted 11-26-2013 06:43 PM

Are you dealing with a very rare plane? If not, I’d just look for an old rust-bucket with an intact frog rather than try to replace a lever.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#3 posted 11-26-2013 06:48 PM

Thanks Pat, I’ll check that out.

Charlie, I got a great deal on a 604, that was missing it, and I have a scrap pile of a #5, so I was going to transplant.

And it seems like the Bedrock frogs go for far more than I paid for the plane.

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#4 posted 11-26-2013 07:04 PM

Ah, yeah, I know what you mean. I have an early 603 that’s in great condition except for the very top of the frog, along with the adjusting lever, being broken off. I have been keeping my eyes open, but parts. as you say, go for more than the plane.

Still, 604’s aren’t exactly rare. If you are patient, and your lever replacement idea doesn’t work out, you might catch one on eBay with a cracked sole selling cheap. They don’t come along every day, but I’ve seen them.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#5 posted 11-26-2013 07:09 PM

Yeah, I figured with my current situation I have nothing to lose, but just want to go into it as educated as possible, hopefully offsetting my lack of experience.

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#6 posted 11-26-2013 07:11 PM

I guess you could always practice once on a very, very cheap frog before going after the #604. Try replacing the lever on a Stanley Handyman or something. Then you’d have the process down…

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#7 posted 11-26-2013 07:15 PM

Good idea, Smitty. I could refine my process on the scrap #5. Take it in and out a few times. I presume the rivet has a shelf life as to how many times I could do this though.

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#8 posted 11-26-2013 07:18 PM

Just make sure the pin is on a solid surface when you peen it. Go slow, light taps with a ball peen hammer. I use a small one. Don’t miss the pin.

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#9 posted 11-26-2013 07:19 PM

Todd, which style of 604—flat or round side? I think I have an extra round side 604/605 frog or two in my spare parts.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#10 posted 11-26-2013 07:21 PM

Yeah, probably. I’ve not been able to re-bend metal without having it break any of the times I’ve really wanted to. lol

I think the trick is to fully support the frog’s wings before attempting to drive (peen?) the rivet. That, and ensure the backside of said rivet is in full contact with something. Getting that jig put together the right way is where the practice will likely pay dividends. “Live fire exercise,” if you will.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#11 posted 11-26-2013 07:22 PM

^ And there you go! Don Yoda speaks, and it is good. He’s done it!

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#12 posted 11-26-2013 07:34 PM

JayT – Round side. It’s has a “B” stamped in it.

Don, does it have to be a new rivet or is the metal maluable enought that the old one can be removed with a punch?

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#13 posted 11-26-2013 07:59 PM

I think I’ve always managed to save the old pin, but I would be more careful driving the pin out of a good frog than peening. When I say I saved the pin, I used the one in the frog I was replacing the adjuster on. If I was removing the pin from a good frog, I would grind it off first. I have removed them from another frog and haven’t broke one, but you know how that goes.

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#14 posted 11-26-2013 09:30 PM

Thanks, Don.

And Pat, I was able to check out the Sawmill forum, and that is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you.

Fingers crossed this process works seamlessly. If not I might be begging JayT to peak in his scrap pile.

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#15 posted 12-01-2013 02:44 AM

The process went flawlessly. I did it exactly as instructed in the link Pat referenced. One step closer to making some shavings.

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