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Forum topic by shipwright posted 11-24-2013 04:15 PM 1424 views 0 times favorited 48 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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shipwright

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11-24-2013 04:15 PM

In honour (honor) of the new “Vises of Your Dreams” thread, I would like to clear up a spelling issue that always causes trouble in these kinds of topics. Simply put both spellings are correct to describe the common clamping tool.
“Vice” is English and “Vise” is American. This may not be an issue for most of you but for a Canadian who spends half of his time in the U.S. and spends time on American based forums it can be a PITA. Just check out my projects and posts, I’m all over the place.
I think the phrase “Two countries divided by a common language” covers it nicely.

...... not a complaint, just an observation. ........ :-)

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglas boats he would have given us fibrerglas trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/


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madts

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#1 posted 11-24-2013 04:22 PM

Thanks for clearing that up.
So “build my new vise has become a vice” is a sentence?

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#2 posted 11-24-2013 04:37 PM

And when its Miami Vice its Floridian?

I’ve got plenty of vices, or vises, either works, just a different conversation.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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redSLED

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#3 posted 11-24-2013 04:37 PM

I’m Canadian but go with ‘vise’ permanently because web page searches with ‘vice’ yield annoying results.

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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Dallas

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#4 posted 11-24-2013 04:56 PM

I thought a vice was a bad habit, such as the habit of collecting vises.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#5 posted 11-24-2013 05:05 PM

The way I have been taught is that a clamping tool is a Vise and the opposite of virtue is a Vice.
.......................Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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404 - Not Found

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#6 posted 11-24-2013 05:21 PM

Clamps and cramps always gets me.

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DKV

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#7 posted 11-24-2013 05:30 PM

I could go either way on this one. Let’s make a decision…do we use vice (my personal favorite) or vise which seems to be the consensus? Of course when talking bad habits we again have the quandary. I’m so confused… Shipwright, what does your research tell us?

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#8 posted 11-24-2013 05:34 PM

I thought Vice was a bad habit, and Vise was something used to hold or clamp an object.

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DKV

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#9 posted 11-24-2013 05:36 PM

I just thought of this problem. Would advice be marketing for a good massage parlor and advise be marketing for woodworking clamps? You’ve really opened a deep, deep pit of quandary, or is that quarry?

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#10 posted 11-24-2013 05:37 PM

Renners, I was about to post that one. Cramps, mostly used in England I believe.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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ScaleShipWright

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#11 posted 11-24-2013 05:40 PM

so is a vice-president an unmoral man?

-- God exists... But relax, He's not you!

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Karson

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#12 posted 11-24-2013 05:41 PM

Of course we haven’t started on the “color’ or “colour” controversy.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †

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#13 posted 11-24-2013 05:44 PM

Paul, thank you for clearing that up!

Every time I type that word, I wonder is it’s right or wrong…

Vice? What’s wrong with Vice… it’s no Vice! No Vice Squad needed here… :)

... must be Vise… LOL

I don’t have to worry about it EVER again! LOL
... thanks to you! :)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#14 posted 11-24-2013 05:54 PM

Not a problem for me Paul. You can spell it however you like and I will just let the context be my guide.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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rance

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#15 posted 11-24-2013 05:55 PM

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in the USA, we speak english. Not engrish, jinglish, nor chinglish. However, isn’t LJ worldwide? Where does a web site really reside? Maybe in Slovakia.

All in all, you can’t make folks change what they perceive as wrong. And as redSLED pointed out, you may be in the minority.

BTW: I had no idea that Canadians spelled it that way. Thanks for the info. Paul. I’ll try to be less critical. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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