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Jerry

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11-21-2013 11:00 PM

I’ve designed a table I want to build for my father in law for Christmas. I’ve been designing a lot of mission style furniture lately, and I think I’ve maybe bitten off more than I can chew in actual practice. I’m new to woodworking, but I have gotten to the point where I can do hand cut dovetails very well. I have good hand tools IE chisels, planes, saws, including a very nice dozuki. I do have power tools but so far prefer to do most of the work by hand. Soo, this little table here. I like the look of the vertical risers. So far I’ve chosen mortise and tenon joints, but that is going to be a lot of work, and I’m wondering if there might not be a better way, so I’m attaching two pictures, one is a rendered image of the Sketchup file, and the other is a wireframe showing the construction. If anybody has any suggestions as to a better way to attach the risers, please advise!! Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

So far a1Jim has suggested: “There is an easier way ,just dado out a groove where the spinels go insert in and glue spacers to fill the gaps in between .”

Which seems like a pretty good answer to me, but if someone has other ideas about how to approach this, I’d be happy to hear them. I don’t have a power mortiser and can’t afford to buy one, so that’s out.

and the wireframe

Thanks,
Jerry

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/


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TopamaxSurvivor

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#1 posted 11-22-2013 12:01 AM

If you do all those mortises by hand, you’ll be good at it when you are finished ;-)

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 11-22-2013 01:28 AM

Thats alote of mortises but like my grand father use to say you have to learn the hard way frist and good luck.Oh you need one of these.

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#3 posted 11-22-2013 01:58 AM

How about using a doweling jig and just drill all the holes? Then glue them in place so they won’t twist. FWIW

-- Art

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#4 posted 11-22-2013 02:39 AM

Woodsmith magazine has a variant on a1jim’s spacer idea. They suggest making a sawtooth-patterned “mortise strip” that fits in the groove. See this plan: http://www.woodsmithshop.com/download/401/401-craftsmancoffeetable.pdf.

(Sometimes that link hasn’t worked for me; if you have a problem with it, send me a message with an email address and I’ll email the file to you.)

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#5 posted 11-22-2013 03:05 AM

It downloaded fine. You know, I was thinking about trying something like that, only my idea was not nearly as well developed. Thank you very much!

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#6 posted 11-22-2013 06:26 AM

Bench top mortise. You will use it all the time.
To me the style of the table looks a bit confused. The lack of tabletop overhang is a distinctly modern feature, yet this is a mission piece. I think it would look better with a 1-2” overhang.

Also, that quantity of spindles on the long side of the table looks odd to me. It seems to block access to the storage shelf.

I know you didn’t ask for design changes, but as an avid designer I couldn’t help but chime in.
Good luck with your project!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Jerry

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#7 posted 11-22-2013 07:33 AM

Thank you.

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#8 posted 11-29-2013 10:15 PM

Okay I got some really good suggestions about doing the spindles, but Pintodeluxe had some really good design feedback.

He said

To me the style of the table looks a bit confused. The lack of tabletop overhang is a distinctly modern feature, yet this is a mission piece. I think it would look better with a 1-2” overhang.

Also, that quantity of spindles on the long side of the table looks odd to me. It seems to block access to the storage shelf.

I know you didn’t ask for design changes, but as an avid designer I couldn’t help but chime in.
Good luck with your project!

So, I’ve gone back and revised the design of the table. I would be appreciative of any and all criticisms and suggestions concerning this new design ( see below )

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#9 posted 11-29-2013 10:32 PM

Jerry,
I think that new design looks much better. I like it!

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#10 posted 11-29-2013 10:45 PM

Infinitely better!

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#11 posted 11-29-2013 10:57 PM

Way, better design.

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#12 posted 11-29-2013 11:04 PM

Great, thanks guys, at least I’m on the right track now.

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#13 posted 11-30-2013 02:29 AM

I like the new design. You are right on track with the arts and crafts style, yet you made it your own design.

Well done.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#14 posted 11-30-2013 02:34 AM

I concur, well done.

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#15 posted 11-30-2013 02:38 AM

Second design looks much better!

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