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cliffslocal777

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261 days ago

What do most folks pay on eBay for one of these in good shape? For instance I am currently bidding on a USA made one and my max bid is 37 and shipping is 13. Is that reasonable if in good shape? Would anyone just consider buying a new one? It will be a user. Many Thanks.


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Dallas

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#1 posted 261 days ago

I paid $6 for the one I use. Others I have paid up to $20 for.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t look for NIB or NOS, I just have to be able to make them usable.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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cliffslocal777

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#2 posted 261 days ago

Thanks, this one appears to be in cleaned up and in decent shape but well see how it goes. I really just want to deal with sharpening at least for this one, maybe refinish the handle too. I have a Stanley defiance No. 4 that I like but I just wanted to try a No. 5. This is the one im looking at.

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12strings

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#3 posted 261 days ago

Just to give you some perspective, A PreWW2 Stanley #5 that is restorable, but will need some work, will probalby run anywhere between $20-$50. You can occasionally find one at an antique store for less in really rough shape, or if the person doesn’t know what they have. If you are wanting one already restored to working and decent-looking order, you will likely be bumping up to the 75-125 range. Planes in that range would be worth it only if you don’t want to do any restoring work yourself.

But if you find a good old Stanley that has no problems, and you pay $50 for it, tune it up and use it for the next 20-40 years…You will have done well…Not gotten a super-cheap steal of a deal, but done pretty well.

For me, I bypassed several 45-$50 planes in my searches, but had to be patient to find some in the 20-30 range.

And Finally, No, any New Stanley that is under $50 will be junk. Now…Stanley just started making some new sweetheart planes in the low 100’s, but for that price, you can either get a really nice restored vintage one, or a Wood-River, which would probably be just as good or better.

-- I'm strictly hand-tool only...unless the power tool is faster and easier!

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sikrap

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#4 posted 261 days ago

Personally, I find 5’s at almost every sale I go to. I have one that is in the box that I’ll sell for $50. If you want one for a project, I can sell you one with “good bones” for $25. PM me if you’re interested.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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jonah

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#5 posted 261 days ago

I got two pre-WW2 number 5’s for around $25 each. Both needed work, slightly rougher than the pictures you showed, but were also older.

Number 5’s are the most common type of plane. They are probably the cheapest bench planes because of that fact.

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bigblockyeti

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#6 posted 261 days ago

I received a Vertias #4 a few Christmas’s back and really want a #7, how do they stack up against the Stanleys?

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Tedstor

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#7 posted 261 days ago

A Stanley plane will last forever. That said, you can spend your weekend at a flea market, looking for a $25 dollar #5 or you can pay $50 for one on eBay and be done with it. I think the latter makes the most sense. But I’m not a patient guy. :)

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cliffslocal777

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#8 posted 261 days ago

Well looks like I won the auction for $49 shipped. I’m sure it will be fine. Thanks for all the great info everyone. I’m going to refinish the handle and hopefully everything else is solid. I should be able to get that blade shaving sharp pretty easily. Here are a couple more pics. I guess it doesn’t matter but does anyone know what year about that is?

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reedwood

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#9 posted 261 days ago

I found this at Rexmill.com Hand planes 101 – the resource
does this sound like it might be it?

Type 19 1948-1961

All of the features of the previous, except:

Lateral Lever Stamped Vertically with Stanley
Blades has New Curved Style

The frog receiver, in the bottom casting, now is Y-shaped.

◾ Rosewood is re-introduced, and is often varnished so heavily that it almost obscures the grain.


“STANLEY” is now incised in a vertical direction on the lateral adjustment lever.


The original type study doesn’t mention this, but on some of the models of this type “STANLEY” is stamped on both sides of the lateral adjustment lever. I’ve seen enough of these to convince me that’s it wasn’t accidental, or if it was, it was a big screw-up.

◾ The knurling on the brass depth adjuster is now parallel on most examples.

◾ Later examples have the familiar black paint on the hardwood tote and knob.

◾ Type study doesn’t mention this, but the cutters now have rounded tops instead of the angular top. This change happened in the mid—1950’s, in my opinion.

◾ Furthermore, the original type study doesn’t mention the change in the finish applied on the forked lever. For a short while, some models had a nickel plated appearance on them as a finish rather than the usual black japanning. Where in the sequence of actual manufacturing this subtle change fits is unknown to me, but I’ve only noticed it on those planes equipped with rosewood knobs and totes and rounded irons.

-- mark

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jonah

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#10 posted 261 days ago

I can’t quite make out which direction the stamping on the lateral adjustment lever is going. If it’s vertical letters stacked on top of each other, then its a type 19. If its horizontal letters going up the lever, then it’s almost certainly a type 16 (1933-1941).

There’s also no picture of the top of the frog, which would also help in identification.

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jonah

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#11 posted 261 days ago

Looking at the knob and tote again, I’m thinking type 16, actually. The iron is also not curved at the top, which is typical of type 19’s. It’s not a 17 because of the brass depth adjuster.

Type 16’s are nice planes. I have one that I like.

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cliffslocal777

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#12 posted 260 days ago

Thanks Jonah and Reedwood. Based on this pic does it appear to be a 16? Thanks again everyone

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jonah

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#13 posted 259 days ago

Yep, looks like a type 16 to me. All the pieces seem to point to that, and there’s no obvious weird mismatched parts. It looks in good shape – should make a nice user plane.

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