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Forum topic by Jerry posted 11-08-2013 02:58 AM 650 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-08-2013 02:58 AM

So as some know, we poured the foundation of our future 40*80 shop last Jan. Dont they say good things come to those who are patient??? Anyway, since I do this with cash and or time, of which we rarely have both together. Either broke and all the time in the world, or flush with no time. This year has been busy with no spare time. But I found brand new R panel sheets for 1.00 LF so I plunged and bought 2200 LF today. Next week I plan a trip down south to buy all of the purlins and IBeam truss and we should be able to get weathered in by Jan. Then some wiring and plumbing and all things good we hope to move in first week of Feb. Anyway, like I said, slow progress. I will try to document our upcoming progress with photo and update. Thanks for looking.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net


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#1 posted 11-08-2013 03:08 AM

Small shop? Was there a typo, that sounds like a very nice size shop, you will have to post pictures.
Mike

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#2 posted 11-08-2013 03:20 AM

Thanks, yeah I really should have said ‘slow shop progress’. Thanks for the comment. We are very excited! Right now we r in a very small shop and have no room.

Our new shop we have 11’ exterior walls so my plan is to extend the roof trusses 10’ past the exterior wall just on one side of the shop giving us a head start on a new addition that will give us 50*80 under truss.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#3 posted 11-08-2013 11:08 PM

Thought I would add some pics of our R panel skin…

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#4 posted 11-08-2013 11:25 PM

So today I ordered 10 I Beams to be used as Trusses. We will have 10’ of I beam truss overhang on one 80’ side so that we can add on down the road. Right now we have a 40X80 slab but we will have 50X80 under Truss so that we can easily add on down the road.

I also ordered the 4” and 8” Purlins. All the structural metal will be on site on Tuesday. I have scheduled my guys to begin the weld up beginning next Wednesday. I have no real idea how long it will take but I hope it goes fairly smooth.

After getting the skin on we should be very close as we will only have lights / electrical and some minor plumbing to complete before being able to move into the shop.

This has been a long time dream and patience has been required. I see folks put up buildings like ours in a month or so, it takes us a year or so :)

So needless to say we are very excited. Our current shop is 40X50 and has a 10X10 storage space that eats into our usable floor space. We also have a 15X25 office area that significantly cuts into our usable floor space. The office space was converted into a room where we store finished product such as doors, drawer faces and drawers for protection from shop abuse. So what I am trying to point out, while 40X50 sounds ok, subtract 15X25 and 10X10 from that and we have much less floor space and thus we are extremely crowded. We have worked magic with the little floor space we do have. So a 40X80 shop that is 50X80 under Truss will be very nice.

Another stress about our current shop is the fact that the building is frame construction, it is old, and the electric is fed with a 60 amp breaker and aluminum main feed wire. I might have been tempted to upgrade the wire and get at least 150 amps to the shop, but the outside breaker box is no longer available so no breakers for that box are mfg anymore. Which means if any of those breakers ever do fail, the entire exterior box will need to be replaced which will be quite a job. So we have been just barely getting by with just 60 amps. It helps keep our electric bill down :)

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#5 posted 11-13-2013 09:40 PM

Not sure if anyone is even following this thread or even cares. But thought I would update. I have been extremely patient over the year since we poured last Jan and just doing everything with cash and having to wait until we have both cash and time to do it.

So I thought we would start welding by today, it was pushed back until this coming Monday. I have a few projects at the shop I needed to keep progressing so put off the build for a few days.

However I got the I Beam today. So I am extremely excited. Now I am going to need to figure a way to off load the 4000 lbs of I Beam. We have a tractor I hope to pull it off with, we will see how that goes.

I will try and get a pic of the I beam uploaded soon. Thanks for looking.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#6 posted 11-13-2013 09:44 PM

Good grief man, that is a large shop but I can tell from your website you are a pro. Good luck. Keep us posted.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#7 posted 11-13-2013 09:53 PM

Of course I wanted to mention while I am excited, this building has kept us broke a good bit. That means no auctions for me :(

So of course I am extremely excited to wrap up this build so that we can get back to a few auctions.

The one thing that has been on my mind as a concern is the potential loss of walk in traffic at our shop. I want to say it is between 30 to 40% of our work. Without the walk in business we may have ran out of work a time or so.

So I am considering our marketing options. We do a very nice web site that is professionally maintained and we get referrals from that online presence. Our savings will amount to close to 2000.00 per month by having the shop on our acreage so I aim to funnel some of that savings into a marketing plan in hopes to replace my loss of walk in traffic. Anyway, just something I am considering.

Many times honestly I have questioned my desire to build on my private property because the walk in traffic brings as in enough to more than cover our shop expenses. However when I consider our extreme lack of floor space, the 9’ ceilings we deal with, the exterior electric box which is out dated and mfg is no longer in business and the fact we only have a 60 amp breaker feeding the shop with aluminum wire, I clearly understand the need to move.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#8 posted 11-13-2013 10:05 PM

Jerry I believe if you will check the aluminum service cable is considered okay. The trouble comes when you use aluminum for circuits and send it through the walls and the connections to the copper lugs or other copper wiring. Check that out. It is still installed in new structures around here. I did buy copper for my shop but ….it has gone up considerably since then (copper). Aluminum has to be one gauges size larger to replace copper.

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#9 posted 11-13-2013 10:11 PM

Grandpa, thanks for the information. I believe the aluminum wire is fairly thick , like maybe 1/2” or so. I do have a 100 amp breaker in the exterior box that feeds a 5 ton AC unit, and since we never use that AC, I have often been tempted to steal that 100 amp breaker. But then again, we typically only run 2 people at a time at the shop, occassionally there are 3 of us there and sometimes we run into power issues. It sure will be nice to get into our shop with a 200 amp service and brand new copper wire ran.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#10 posted 11-14-2013 12:41 AM

Jerry, the loss of walk in business might be ameliorated to some extent by the use of Google Ads. I have no idea of the cost, but would ask Google if they can have your ad appear whenever someone from your area does any kind of Google search for anything that you might be able to supply for them. My understanding is that the more money you are willing to spend, the higher your ad is on the page. FWIW

-- Art

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#11 posted 11-14-2013 01:42 AM

Thanks for the idea Art. I certainly believe my most effective marketing is going to be internet these days. Google AdWords campaign could be very effective.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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