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coachmancuso

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299 days ago

What does everyone use to make their own friction polish. What are the formulas and how to mix it heat or no heat?

-- Coach Mancuso


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bigblockyeti

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#1 posted 298 days ago

I’ve used untreated pine sawdust from my miter saw with a little paste wax and mineral oil = very cheap and works reasonably well on the lathe. Haven’t tried it using any other methods, but packing it in a rag and holding it tight against whatever I’m turning.

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#2 posted 298 days ago

I use ‘O.B.’s Shine Juice’ ... got the recipe from Eddie Castelin ( http://eddiecastelin.com/sharing_information ).

In a nutshell, you mix equal parts of BLO, de-waxed clear shellac, and denatured alcohol. Apply with a paper towel while the lathe is running slow, then increase the speed. When the paper towel gets too hot to hold onto, you should have a nice shine on your piece.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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coachmancuso

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#3 posted 298 days ago

TheDane any dewaxed clear shellac?

-- Coach Mancuso

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bondogaposis

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#4 posted 298 days ago

I also use the “shine juice”, as the Dane explained.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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TheDane

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#5 posted 298 days ago

Coach … I like the Zinsser’s product … easily available at most big box stores.

This is what I use: http://www.menards.com/main/interior-wood-care/polyurethane-sealers/wood-shellac/bulls-eye-clear-shellac/p-2045617-c-7965.htm

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Bill White

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#6 posted 298 days ago

That is not dewaxed.
Seal Coat (Zinsser) is dewaxed.
Bill

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TheDane

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#7 posted 298 days ago

Now that I look at it, I was wrong … you don’t need de-waxed shellac. Eddie specifies ‘Zinsser’s Bulls Eye Shellac, Clear’ (per my link) and that is what I use.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Ron Ford

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#8 posted 298 days ago

+2 on TheDane’s comment on OB’s Shine Juice. Easy to mix up and leaves a wonderful finish.

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.

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coachmancuso

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#9 posted 298 days ago

On the OB’S shine juice how glossy does it get . I like my pens and stoppers to have a really good shine?

-- Coach Mancuso

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gtbuzz

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#10 posted 298 days ago

I use Shellawax cream and the finish is what I’d consider a low-gloss. Not the shiniest, but not bad considering not much work went into it. I’ve been looking for alternatives though, because it’s not the cheapest stuff.

Does anyone know how OB’s shine juice compares to Shellawax?

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TheDane

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#11 posted 298 days ago

It is not a ‘dipped in glass’ kind of shine … to get that, you’d need something like a CA finish.

It produces a decent shine, but not a real high gloss … I use it on my Freedom Pens (check them out in my projects).

It is fast … finishing only takes a couple of minutes.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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coachmancuso

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#12 posted 297 days ago

Thedane I know this is probably another topic but how do you use ca without ut sticking to everything?

-- Coach Mancuso

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TheDane

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#13 posted 297 days ago

Coach—It sounds complicated but is really pretty easy.

Sand through the grits to 800, then wipe the piece down with CA accelerator on a paper towel.

Apply 3 coats (one quick swipe) of thin CA with a piece of a paper towel, then sand with 800 grit and clean the surface with CA accelerator. Apply three more coats of thin CA, sand with 800 grit again, clean the surface with CA accelerator, and apply the last three coats of thin CA.

Three things: You can’t rub the CA in … put a drop on the paper towel, and give the piece one quick swipe with the lathe running slow. Toss the paper towel after each application … don’t try to re-use it (I tear full-sized paper towels into 8 pieces … they don’t need to be very big). Don’t spray the accelerator directly on the piece … spray a little on a piece of paper towel and use it to wipe the piece.

Make sure you have decent ventilation … you don’t want to breath the fumes the CA throws off.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Wildwood

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#14 posted 297 days ago

Before you get all excited about a CA finish for your pens check out this finishing thread.

http://www.penturners.org/forum/f28/

I did not use the same procedure as Gerry, but never had a problem with a CA finish. Some folk claimed to have the best method for applying a CA finish. I cannot dispute their claims because it works for them and they are happy. Where I and most other folks part company on a CA finish is high gloss or shiny does not always mean durability.

JMHO, only advantages to a CA finish is ease and speed achieving a high gloss finish. Have no idea why so many people have problems achieving a nice finish with CA.

-- Bill

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Rick M.

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#15 posted 297 days ago

I have a little bottle of BLO & Johnson’s Paste wax that gives a nice low luster finish. I put them in the same container and set it on my coffee warmer, after a while the wax melts and I give it a stir.

I’ve been planning to make some 3 Way: shellac + oil + wax. I’d like to try the OB Shine Juice but without wax to bind it the shellac and oil separate, or appear to in Captain Eddies videos.

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