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tazboy

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11-02-2013 04:05 PM

So I’ve been shopping around and trying to be patient looking for a table saw on Craigslist. Here are two that I got responses from. Ultimately, I would like to do some DIY stuff around the house. Maybe make a computer table later on.

Craftsman 113.298762
She wanted $250 for it but I asked $100 and she said ok. She just wants to get rid of her ex-husband’s stuff.

Craftsman 315.228390
$350
Here is some additional info/upgrades that he sent me about the item:

Dust collection system: 22100
Router mounting kit:—-
Mobile base:—-
Dado throat plate: 222900
I’ve made zero clearance inserts, sacrificial high support fence, tenoning jig, bigger miter gauge fence. All is ready to run. I’m selling to make room, upgraded and inherited other saws.

I’ve been itching at getting a table saw and my patients is running a little thin. Any information, suggestions, and insight would be greatly appreciated.


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toolie

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#1 posted 11-02-2013 04:20 PM

for $100, the first c-man is a good buy, assuming it is a belt drive unit and not one with a flex (flexible cable that connects the motor to the arbor) or a direct drive. nice to see that it has the splitter/blade guard as most saws lose their OEM units somewhere along the way. they usually cost ~$45-$60 to replace and these 113 series c-man saws do not accept riving knife retro fits. it will probably need a new fence at some point as those OEM fences do not enjoy a good reputation for reliability and repeatability. but it would be a quite serviceable and likely do whatever you’d like to do in a hobbyist shop. FTR. i own two of them and sold a unisaw (for lack of room) so i could keep them.

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Tedstor

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#2 posted 11-02-2013 06:11 PM

The first saw is identical to mine. The saw itself is good, but the stock fence SUCKS. I paid $75 for my saw and it only came with one extension wing. So $100 for that saw is good in my opinion. Given its seemingly good condition, $100 is actually great. But like me, you’ll probably want to upgrade the fence after continual frustration with the stock fence. An upgraded fence will likely cost $150-250. Of course at that point, you’ll have $250-350 invested in the saw.

I’d probably go with the 2nd saw. Its newer, and is loaded with extras. The router wing and mobile base are good. And the fence on that saw is MUCH nicer. Given the condition and accessories, its probably worth $350. I’d offer $275 though. Hopefully the seller would settle for $300. Keep in mind that a mobile base is $50-75. A cast iron router table extension is $150 (used). The dado inserts and zero clearance insert adds a bit of value too. You probably wouldn’t outgrow that saw for quite a while- if ever.

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tazboy

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#3 posted 11-02-2013 08:04 PM

Now that I read that a fence upgrade would probably be in order, I’m not that excited about getting the less expensive option. Hmm.

Now for the second option, I don’t think I would need a mobile base as I plan on keeping it in the same spot for a while. I have a nice spot for it in the basement. And I don’t see myself needing to use the router part, at least not in the foreseeable future, so an extension probably wouldn’t be needed.

Does anyone know if the second option allows for the use of a riving knife?

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#4 posted 11-02-2013 08:47 PM

The first is option is good buy for $100, but the fence is gonna be a pain if you’re intent is to use it…..OTOH, putting it up for parts on Ebay will likely double your investment, which you can use to pay for a more complete package, like option #2 (I’d ask what they’d take for it or offer ~ $275).

Here's another similar saw.

No aftermarket riving knives for these that I know of, but there are some good splitters….Sharkguard, Microjig.

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#5 posted 11-02-2013 09:20 PM

IMHO the second saw is much better, for one thing I personally much prefer the solid wings. It has a better fence, the mobile base you may think you don’t need it but if for nothing more it makes it much easier to clean under, and I’ll guarantee you there will be times you want to move it. It’s a newer saw so accessories may be easier to find for it and the top is not going to take work to get in shape because it is not rusty. I don’t know what the dust collection is on it, I don’t see anything that works for dust collection. I also agree the price may be a little high.

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tazboy

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#6 posted 11-02-2013 09:41 PM

@knotscott
I offered the $350 saw for $250. Still waiting for a response. I did see that other saw about 20 minutes before you showed it on here. No upgrades but that would be fine with me. I’ll probably offer him $200 for it. It’s about an hour away which is a little annoying. I’m assuming I can’t fit that in my car so I’ll have to wait for an SUV in the middle of the week.

@PaulDoug
Having solid wings seems like a more comfortable buy to me. I can just feel the extra space. And not having to, hopefully, buy a better fence is a plus for me as well.

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#7 posted 11-02-2013 11:17 PM

Even if you don’t ever use the mobile base for the table saw, you might use it for another machine. Food for thought.

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Redoak49

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#8 posted 11-03-2013 12:41 AM

I used a saw just like the first one for years and it was fine with a good blade in it.

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tazboy

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#9 posted 11-04-2013 01:12 AM

So I ended up purchasing the Craftsman 315.228390 for $250. I’m pretty excited about it. I was a little worried when I started it up, before I bought it, because it sounded like the blade was running a little rough. Kind of like a grind to it. I don’t know if that is just time taking its toll on a ten year old saw or if it is a major thing. Maybe unfortunately for me, I was too excited to pass it up. Thanks everyone for your help and I’m sure you’ll see me around.

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toolie

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#10 posted 11-05-2013 03:10 AM

congrats. did it come with the OEM splitter/blade guard? and that fence rail can probably be easily slid to the right for more ripping capacity. renders the front tape useless, but that’s a small price to pay for the added capacity.

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Rick M.

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#11 posted 11-05-2013 04:17 AM

Checked out your local craigslist and you sure have a lot of Craftsman saws in your area, quite a few vintage. Anyway, congrats on the purchase.

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#12 posted 11-05-2013 03:30 PM

agree the 1st one is good, I had one, but found an align a rip fence cheap.
Made a big improvement.
It was a fine saw, only got rid of it when I found a unisaw.
Would have kept both, but don’t have the room.

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PaulDoug

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#13 posted 11-05-2013 03:55 PM

Could the grinding actually be just the blade rubbing on the zero clearance insert?

Congrats, looks like a nice saw.

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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tazboy

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#14 posted 11-05-2013 07:50 PM

Yeah, I’ve been watching a lot of “American Restoration” and it makes me want to buy an old one and fix it up. But I have enough work with what I’ve got. Thanks.

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Tedstor

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#15 posted 11-05-2013 07:55 PM

$250?? You did very well. And IF you ever decide to upgrade, you’ll have little trouble selling that saw for $250.

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