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Forum topic by Fred posted 10-31-2013 04:42 PM 1644 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Fred

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10-31-2013 04:42 PM

Topic tags/keywords: kreg jig cabinet making cabinet fence router beaded face frame

Hello,

I’ve search for the answer to my posted question through search engines, the Kreg and Lumberjocks forums, and by emailing Incra to no avail. I’ve been researching, watching videos, reading the manuals, and analyzing the images of both devices and it seems to me that the Incra Fence can replicate the movement and cuts for the rails and stiles given the proper set of router bits and clamp. Am I off on this assessment? Has anyone replicated the cuts to generate Kreg like beaded face cabinet doors and frames using their Incra Router and Fence?

I looking to purchase a router table, fence, and bits to make some cabinets and doors and narrowed it down to Kreg and Incra LS17—preferably the latter.

I appreciate your feedback.

Thanks.


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Chireaux

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#1 posted 03-14-2015 06:45 PM

I would love to know if you tried this. I am in the same predicament as you.

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JeffP

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#2 posted 03-14-2015 08:26 PM

First, I am surprised that you didn’t get an answer from Incra. Mark at Incra has been extremely good about getting back to me with quick and insightful answers to all of my many questions.

I have a full-boat Incra Ts/Ls 27 system with a router table as an extension wing on the left end of my Saw Stop PCS. With this config, I can use the same Incra stuff for both the saw and the router. It is awesome.

While I have never used a Kreg jig of any kind, since they don’t have the same type of patented Incra mechanism for taking your approximate position and correcting it down to a thousandth of an inch when you lock it down…I would bet that Incra could out-position any Kreg jig you can find.

Don’t know the specifics of the beaded face-frame. Have you looked around to see if you can get the appropriate bits by themselves (either from Kreg or elsewhere)? If so, then absolutely yes, the Incra system can position your work properly with respect to the router bits…precisely and easily.

Note that for some types of bits (really large ones in particular) you might need the fancy “Wonder Fence” to add to the LS17. That also includes a high-rise fence attachment and a right-angle sled that is used for doing joinery, like box joints and dovetails of all descriptions.

If you haven’t already, you should check out some of the good youtube videos that incra has put out. That should show you what you can do with the Incra system on a router table.

I know I am coming across as a “fanboy” for Incra here. That’s mostly because I have become, well, a fanboy for Incra products of late. Can’t help it.

-- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Unfortunately, it was in my shop, so I will probably never find it again.

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Shadowrider

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#3 posted 03-15-2015 12:05 AM

This thread makes me. Happy..Happy..Happy.

I just ordered the LS-TS super system for my Unisaw a couple of weeks ago. O/P you ought to email Mark directly at Incra, his email is on their sight. I can personally attest to him being awesome to correspond with. I hit him up about a project, he replied promptly to my questions, we went back and forth a couple times. He said that if he ran across something he’d forward it to me, so I thought that would be the end of it, but he had already given me the information that I sought. He forwarded what he was talking about to me this very morning, so he did in fact follow up. That goes a heck of a long ways with me and their customer service.

I should be a week more or less out from getting my super system. I’m dying to start making dust.

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Chireaux

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#4 posted 03-16-2015 06:03 PM

I am about to order the same system as well. I did call and talk to Mark, He answered many of the questions that I had. As far as the kreg beaded face frames, He says the fence doesnt move like the Kreg system, but you could do it with the miter sled. And yes, you can by the bits separately. I would love to hear from JeffP and see if he has tried this yet. Hopefully it works for me, rather than investing in a $400 Kreg jig that serves only a sole purpose, I would rather sink that money into the incra sytem. :)

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#5 posted 03-16-2015 08:35 PM


I know I am coming across as a “fanboy” for Incra here. That s mostly because I have become, well, a fanboy for Incra products of late. Can t help it.

- JeffP


Thanks for the chuckle. From what I’ve read about their products, you’re in good company.

-- Blaze

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JeffP

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#6 posted 03-16-2015 10:04 PM

Nope, don’t have any immediate plans to do beaded face frames.


I am about to order the same system as well. I did call and talk to Mark, He answered many of the questions that I had. As far as the kreg beaded face frames, He says the fence doesnt move like the Kreg system, but you could do it with the miter sled. And yes, you can by the bits separately. I would love to hear from JeffP and see if he has tried this yet. Hopefully it works for me, rather than investing in a $400 Kreg jig that serves only a sole purpose, I would rather sink that money into the incra sytem. :)

- Chireaux


-- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Unfortunately, it was in my shop, so I will probably never find it again.

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Woodmaster1

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#7 posted 03-16-2015 10:10 PM

Look into sommerfelds beaded face frame system. The only thing you need a router for is the bead. It uses thes tablesaw for the cut outs. It is cheaper than the kreg system and looks easier to set up. Watch the YouTube video on it.

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#8 posted 03-17-2015 03:23 AM

Will do. Thanks

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Chireaux

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#9 posted 03-17-2015 05:21 AM



Nope, don t have any immediate plans to do beaded face frames.

- JeffP

sorry Jeff, I meant to say Fred, the original poster. Wondering if he ever got the incra system and tried to make beaded face frames with it. The more I look in to it though, Im getting closer to just buying the Kreg system. Im sure I can come up with jigs and all that stuff, but dont really have the time for it.

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#10 posted 03-17-2015 11:33 AM

Chireaux, I have to opposing opinions on this matter.

1) If you are planning to do a LOT of these beaded face-frames, then a jig that is designed specifically for that purpose will undoubtedly get that job done easier and faster that any more general device (like Incra). If you see a lot of this specific task in your near future, go for it.

2) Once you are pulled in by the siren song of Incra, you can’t “un-hear” her call. You will buy Incra eventually. She has her claws in your hide now. There is no going back. ;)

-- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Unfortunately, it was in my shop, so I will probably never find it again.

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goochs

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#11 posted 03-18-2015 02:03 AM

I watched the kreg video and with my ls17 super fence with right angle sled should be able to duplicate this with the right bits.

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Chireaux

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#12 posted 03-18-2015 04:54 PM

haha Jeff, I literally laughed out loud at that comment.

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