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Forum topic by PeteMoss posted 12-02-2008 05:13 PM 1464 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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PeteMoss

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12-02-2008 05:13 PM

Topic tags/keywords: saw tenon rip crosscut

I am interested in trying to hand cut tenons. I am especially intrigued by the japanese style pull cut saws. I was wondering though, since the shoulder cuts are crosscuts and the other cuts are rip cuts, do I need two different saws to make the cuts or is there a single best type of saw for tenons.

Any direction on a best type of saw or personal recommendations is greatly appreciated. I am hoping to spend no more than about $50 to try this out.

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PeteMoss

-- "Never measure......cut as many times as necessary." - PeteMoss


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#1 posted 12-02-2008 05:20 PM

I purchased a Japanese Dozuki saw from wookcraft http://www.woodcraft.com/product.aspx?ProductID=12F27&FamilyID=850 .

Once I changed my mind set from push to pull, I found it to be the perfect saw for me. Never tried to do tenons but I suspect it will work well for those too.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#2 posted 12-02-2008 06:37 PM

Dozuki saws work great for the shoulders but not the rip
cuts.

I use a self-made bowsaw for cutting dovetails and tenon
cheeks. It has a rip blade.

You can use a Japanese Ryoba saw for both cheeks and shoulders
but it’s not as easy to learn as a Dozuki, nor are the teeth as
fine. The saw you choose should depend to some extent on
the size/scale of the work you will be doing. For Shoji screens
and miniature work a Dozuki is fine for all joinery.

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#3 posted 12-03-2008 02:28 AM

The standard saw I have and see around the stores is a double edged trapazoid thing in the plastic hanging envelope, long gray handle. Vaughn or Bear or something. One side is cross cut, the other rip. use it all the time.

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#4 posted 12-03-2008 04:15 AM

I may be showing my naivete here… but why not just cut them on the table saw with a dado blade? That’s how I always do them.

-- Mark, Dominican Republic

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#5 posted 12-03-2008 05:41 AM

Thanks guys I appreciate the input.

Lew: I think I saw that same one at my local Woodcraft store, I was just too overwhelmed to know one from the other. Thanks for the info.

Loren: Thanks for this information as well. Will it damage a dozuki saw to use it in a rip cut or is it just inefficient and difficult to cut with? I am intending to do regular sized funiture tenons with it, for example tenons on a coffee table apron will be the next thing on my agenda. As a beginner would the lack of a stiffening back on the Ryoba hurt my ability to learn to cut straight?

Catspaw: I think that Ryoba saw that Loren mentioned is maybe the same type that you are talking about too. Do you think a beginner would have trouble cutting accurate joints with it? (Probably depends on the beginner huh? Oh well, I probably out of luck either way.)

Mark: There are two reasons that I am considering trying this out. One is that is seems like it would be a cool skill to have, maybe make me a better woodworker overall. Secondly and probably much more importantly is that my tablesaw is one of those $99 Delta jobs that you get at Lowe’s. Putting a good blade on it helped a lot, but you still can’t hardly make it cut straight and it won’t take a dado head. Probably couldn’t spin it if it did.

Thanks for your replys everyone.

-- "Never measure......cut as many times as necessary." - PeteMoss

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