Daylight savings time ends Sunday.....Hate it or not hate it......!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Forum topic by Rick Dennington posted 10-30-2013 10:17 PM 1574 views 0 times favorited 34 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rick Dennington

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10-30-2013 10:17 PM

I’ll start…...I hate it…..Never have liked it….Days are too short…Nights too long….!!!!!!!!!!

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....!!

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#1 posted 10-30-2013 10:27 PM

The nights are not any longer just because we in the U.S. (Except Arizona and a few other locations that don’t mess with their clocks) and some other nations collectively change a clock. Our position relative to the sun and the axis upon which our planet rotates has nothing to do with our clocks. Night is the same amount of elapsed time regardless of where the big hand is.

I can’t change what the powers that be decide our clocks should be set at so I don’t let it bother me either way.

Neither like nor hate, just deal with it.

-- - Terry

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#2 posted 10-30-2013 11:16 PM


I understand Terrry’s excellent explanation above…..........thx Terry

I have trouble shifting my biological clock…....some people do….......some don’t.

I do.

And, I think many of the negatives published on this topic are accurate.

I am not some wacko conspiracy freak…...finding evil in everything

But, I think lot of these criticisms of DST have merit.

Cost to economy


Life-style adjustment

Disturbed sleep patterns

There’s a spike in heart attacks during the first week of daylight saving time

People are safer drivers during daylight hours,

Experts NOW even disagree on whether DST still saves the nation energy.

“Fall Back” I do not like

But…....”Spring Forward”................ I actually like …...........and look forward to.

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#3 posted 10-30-2013 11:45 PM

It’s dumb. I can’t believe there is any savings of energy in this day and age. Most people, my wife included, have all the lights on in the middle of the day when the sun is bright. It’s terrible for farmers who get up with the sun or before. They work until the sun goes down, so in the summer they don’t eat dinner til 9. If it’s such a great thing why are some states allowed to opt out. The fact that they keep making it later into the year makes it even more dumb. For the people who get up and go to work, they have to turn on lights when without daylight savings, the sun would already be up. I’ll stop.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#4 posted 10-31-2013 12:19 AM

10-4 on all the above answers…...I can see no reasoning behind the dst…....I’ve never liked it just for the reasons mentioned above…...But like Terry said….we have to deal with it….But I still hate it…lol…..

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....!!

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#5 posted 10-31-2013 04:42 AM

I guess you people just don’t care one way or another…....

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....!!

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#6 posted 10-31-2013 05:49 AM

When I first heard of daylight savings time I was told it was to help the farmers by giving them more daylight time to work. I found out however, that most of the farmers don’t work by the clock, they work by the amount of work that had to be done regardless of the clock!

Now they tell us it is to save energy … how I really don’t see!

If they want to play with the clock why don’t they split the difference between savings time and standard time and leave it that way ALL YEAR ROUND!

But we, the U.S., are not as screwed up as some other countries just take a look at Canada and Australia as an example!

It is also interesting that many third world countries seem to be smarter and not observe DST!

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#7 posted 10-31-2013 09:46 AM

Doesn’t bother me in the least, what bothers me more is the cold wet weather and everyone moaning about it then crying off work because they have sniffle or runny nose.

BTW – Why doesn’t Arizona observe the DST??

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#8 posted 10-31-2013 10:49 AM

Oldnovice, your derogatory comment about Canada and Australia isn’t backed up by facts. Look at the link you provided yourself and you’ll see an exception in the US. Ever heard of Arizona?

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#9 posted 10-31-2013 11:10 AM

I am at a stage in life and very fortunate to retire at the age of 50, now 54 so time change really doesn’t effect me anymore, I don’t have to be anywhere at any specific time but…. going through all the clocks to change time is taking my time away from other things I could be doing.

As for as it’s history I’ve heard a few different theories, 1. created for the school and kids, 2. created during War time and 3. As Oldnovice, stated for farmers.

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#10 posted 10-31-2013 01:07 PM

I thought that DST was invented so that people would change the batteries in their smoke detectors.

In college, I worked with a professor visiting from Czechoslovakia. He refused to change any of his clocks or watches to DST. Instead, he changed his version of when everything happened. The class that he taught at 11AM was now at 10AM. If he got a notice of a meeting at 2PM, he remembered that he had a meeting at 1PM. Somehow, he was able to make this work. Mathematicians can be quirky!

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#11 posted 10-31-2013 01:23 PM

No Chuck, firefighters came up with that as a way to get people to change their batteries twice per year.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#12 posted 10-31-2013 01:34 PM

The bottom line is that daylight savings time COSTS US ALL EXTRA MONEY!

Just the facts mam, as Sgt Joe Friday would say, ”... just the facts.”

Study: Daylight saving time a waste of energy
(—Daylight saving time is supposed to reduce energy use, but data gathered from a state in the US suggests it actually does the opposite.

The US state of Indiana has 92 counties, but until 2006 only 15 of them adjusted their clocks for daylight saving time, with the remainder keeping standard time all year, at least partly to appease farmers who did not want the change. Then in 2006 the Indiana Legislature decided the entire state should adopt daylight saving time, beginning that spring.

This unique situation enabled professor of economics Matthew Kotchen and his PhD student Laura E. Grant, both from the University of California at Santa Barbara, to study how the adoption of daylight saving affected energy use. They studied over seven million electricity meter readings in southern Indiana every month for three years, and compared the energy consumption before and after the change. The 15 counties that had adopted daylight saving time much earlier were the control group, which allowed them to adjust for the effects of weather extremes over the period.

The result of the study showed that electricity use went up in the counties adopting daylight saving time in 2006, costing $8.6 million more in household electricity bills. The conclusion reached by Kotchen and Grant was that while the lighting costs were reduced in the afternoons by daylight saving, the greater heating costs in the mornings, and more use of air-conditioners on hot afternoons more than offset these savings. Kotchen said the results were more “clear and unambiguous” than results in any other paper he had presented.

Kotchen and Grant’s work reinforces the findings of an Australian study in 2007 by economists Ryan Kellogg and Hendrik Wolff, who studied the extension of daylight saving time for two months in New South Wales and Victoria for the 2000 Summer Olympics. They also found an increase in energy use.

Daylight saving was initially introduced, and has been extended, because it was believed to save energy, but the studies upon which this idea was based were conducted in the 1970s. A big difference between then and the present is the massive increase in the take-up of air conditioning. In hot periods daylight saving time means air conditioners tend to be run more when people arrive home from work, while in cooler periods more heating is used.

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#13 posted 10-31-2013 02:10 PM

Yet this has been some presidents solution to the energy crisis. “I know, I’ll just extend daylight savings time. That’ll fix it”.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#14 posted 10-31-2013 02:12 PM

Ok….keep ‘em coming, folks…..I like a good debate and comments…..Some good statements here…..I still don’t like dst…...Just for the reason I made in my opening statement…......

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....!!

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#15 posted 10-31-2013 02:36 PM

This thread gives truth to the old adage; Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. Women have 2 a$$holes, the ones they were born with and the ones they send out to work everyday. Just sayin!

-- Art, Pittsburgh.

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