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Posty

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10-29-2013 09:36 PM

So Christmas is coming and my birthday is also on Dec 23. Have been using some older hand planes for fun and shooting meters and have been thinking about getting a nice new hand plane. I have restored and setup about 5 planes including 2 block planes, a #6 plane, and just for fun I bought 2 smoothing planes from harbor freight and trued up the soles, frogs and blades. They were a lot of work but work pretty well.

Anyways what I’m trying to get out is I want a nice plane, and I was looking at the veritas smoothing planes. A little about me, I have a jointer and a thickness planer, so I want a nice plane that will give me near if not ready surfaces for finishing. Also I want it to be good for shooting meters. I saw the veritas low angle smooth plane and really like it, also the regular 4 smoother from veritas. I would love other recommendations or input on this matter. Would like a brand new plane, you know something I won’t have to work over to be perfect.


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 10-29-2013 10:03 PM

I have the Veritas LA jack, and absolutely love it. It is ready to go out of the box, after you sharpen the iron. I know they claim the irons are sharp when delivered, but the ones I’ve seen (2 for this jack plane, one for a shoulder plane, and an iron I bought for a Stanley Bedrock) were not. Easy enough to solve.

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#2 posted 10-29-2013 10:08 PM

My only concern is how much longer the jack plane is than the regular low angle smoother. Plus the smoother has taller sides which would be better for shooting.

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WayneC

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#3 posted 10-29-2013 10:15 PM

For shooting you may want to consider a Lie-Nielsen Low Angle Jack Plane.

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/low-angle-bench-planes/low-angle-jack-plane/

A scraping plane would be something to consider…

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/scraping-planes/large-scraping-plane/

Or a Shoulder Plane

http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=48430&cat=1,41182,68490

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dcountry

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#4 posted 10-29-2013 10:37 PM

I have the Veritas LA smoother. Absolutely love it. Spend the little extra and get the 50 degree blade. It will save hours of frustration. When you get it go right to your stones because every blade needs a tune. I have two blades, the 37 and 50 in A2 steel. The extra heft of the smoother and the adjustable mouth make this plane a dream. I routinely get thin shavings that I can read whats underneath them.

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Posty

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#5 posted 10-29-2013 11:06 PM

Dcountry: is this the plane you have?

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dcountry

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#6 posted 10-30-2013 12:47 AM

No I got the other one, the bevel up smoother. Both planes are low angle. The one I have has more mass which you’ll want. I have most of Veritas’s low angle planes but the smoother is my favorite. I go from smoother to finish for most projects. But you can set up most planes to be a smoother if the frog is movable or if you have the LA flavor from Veritas. The LN is beautiful but for me its easier to change a blade than change a frog and a blade to change the angles. Tear out is a thing of the past, even on figured oak, with a 50 degree blade and a tight mouth.

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knockknock

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#7 posted 10-30-2013 01:19 AM

As you are interested in both smoothing and shooting miters. There is a pertinent difference between the two Veritas smoothers. The “Low-Angle Smooth Plane” has 90 degree machined sides and can be used for shooting. The “Bevel-Up Smoother Plane” doesn’t have the machined sides, so it wouldn’t work well for shooting.

I have been using a Veritas “Small BU Smooth Plane” (another Veritas smoother) for shooting. It works for shooting, but a plane with a longer toe would be nicer for shooting, in my opinion.

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Loren

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#8 posted 10-30-2013 01:35 AM

A regular premium #4 is good choice. Chipbreaker gives you
some flexibility in setups for different wood, cambering
is easy, and the wear bevel is less of a factor than in
low angle planes. You won’t go wrong dealing with
Lee Valley.

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dcountry

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#9 posted 10-30-2013 02:02 AM

Good point. The smoother I have cant be used to shoot miters and I never would with a smoother. Until recently I used a LA jack with its longer toe. I recently traded up for the Veritas shooting plane and haven’t look back. It really comes down what your going to use it the most for.

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Posty

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#10 posted 10-30-2013 02:05 AM

While I am tempted to go with the #4 veritas, the reason I wanted the low angle plane is because I have a couple of # 4 planes and they can be a bear to use on a shooting board due to weight and being taller. Think I’m gonna go with the low angle smoother by veritas with the extra blade.

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Posty

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#11 posted 10-30-2013 02:10 AM

So also saw the Stanley sweetheart low angle smoother, but I saw some reviews that it wasn’t as nicely machined as a real premium plane and it needed some tuning out of the box. Any other planes that would fit this bill?

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waho6o9

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#12 posted 10-30-2013 02:27 AM

I like this one out of the ten that are available on Lee Valley’s smooth
plane choices.

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Posty

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#13 posted 10-30-2013 03:04 AM

Yah it’s a nice plane. I really like the nice touches they give their planes.

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