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Wolfdaddy

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10-28-2013 01:44 AM

I picked up this board the other day and I just can’t figure out what it is. It was being used for dunnage. My first thought was ipe, because it’s pretty dense and heavy, but the color is all wrong and the ipe smell is not present, even when freshly planed and crosscut. There is no distinct smell at all, really. I couldn’t get the best pics with my phone.



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#1 posted 10-28-2013 02:25 AM

It might be Argentine osage orange.

http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/argentine-osage-orange/
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/osage%20orange,%20argentine.htm

The endgrain looks very similar and it doesn’t have any odor to speak of. The grain pattern in your first picture looks pretty similar to the second image in the Hobbit House link too.

I have a few small boards of it and although it’s not as dense and heavy as most ipe, it’s fairly close. If you have a lathe, it turns really nicely and has a beautiful two-tone luster when you finish it.

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#2 posted 10-28-2013 01:37 PM

Thanks. That does look pretty similar to what I have. Oddly enough, osage orange went through my mind briefly, but I don’t have any experience with it. The shop I work at has never gotten any through since I’ve been there, almost 8 years now. I do plan to turn some of it, maybe a nice mallet or three :)

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#3 posted 10-29-2013 12:53 AM

It is a tropical hardwood of some type, not a native species. Probably from Indonesia.

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#4 posted 10-29-2013 01:11 AM

Maybe a black locust.

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#5 posted 10-29-2013 02:21 AM

Nope, tropical. Has interlocked grain, mahogany like. Maybe rubber tree. Grown in plantations and imported to the US. Used in cheap, Walmart-like furniture.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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#6 posted 10-29-2013 04:02 PM

Looks like Jatoba

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#7 posted 10-29-2013 07:55 PM

The color doesn’t look quite right for jatoba. Definitely tropical though, I couldn’t call a specific species.

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#8 posted 10-30-2013 02:04 AM

Definitely tropical. Argentine Osage is also known by the rather unattractive name of “fustic” a source of yellowish dye. Gut feeling is that it’s yellowheart, sometimes called Brazilian Satinwood/pau amarello or Movingue (aka Nigerian Satinwood) -neither of them are real satinwoods . Or it may be real Ceylon Satinwood, but I kinda doubt it.In what context was it used as “dunnage”? Pallets, crates? That may at least narrow down the wood to a part of the world. You’ve piqued my curiosity.

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Wolfdaddy

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#9 posted 10-30-2013 01:41 PM

It was being used as a stick between stacks of lumber. My guess is it’s from South America. We’ve had a couple shipments of ipe over the last couple months, and I think it may have come in with those. The supplier we got it from deals in teak and ipe and other exotics.

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#10 posted 10-30-2013 06:49 PM

I’m sorta stuck on this one. Looks similar to a few S.American woods, but they have hundreds that are not commercially available to US dealers. Could be they needed 1 more board as a sticker and used what was handy.You could send pics/samples to Paul Hinds at woodpics@hobbithouseinc.com . Also USDA Forest Products Laboratory, 1 Gifford Pinchot Drive, Madison,WI 53726. Forest service needs a small piece for analysis (I think they’ll do a few individual samples for free ). I wish I could help more.

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#11 posted 10-30-2013 07:21 PM

Mahogony in my book or light abura. Alistair

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#12 posted 10-30-2013 09:00 PM

Mahogany was my guess too, all of the door jambs in my house are made out of mahogany and they look real close to that, the grain especially.

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#13 posted 10-30-2013 09:20 PM

I’m about 98% sure it’s not mahogany. This is a lot heavier than any of the mahogany I’ve worked with. I may send a chunk to Paul at hobbit house, but it’s really not that big a deal.

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#14 posted 10-31-2013 05:22 AM

Paul will look at the photos you posted if you email to him…The Forest service needs physical sample for id’ing. Also, unless the colors are all wrong, it doesn’t look like Mahogany to me.One last guess is Canarywood. No matter what it is I’d just use it- if you have a lathe I bet it would make beautiful tool handles. Or great accents on a small box.

-- "After a year of doing general farmwork, it was quite clear to me that chickens and I were not compatible"-George Nakashima

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