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Forum topic by Ron Harper posted 10-27-2013 08:03 PM 861 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ron Harper

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10-27-2013 08:03 PM

Met Mr. Cosman at the Indianapolis Woodcraft yesterday afternoon. I had no idea that he was going to be there. I watched him take a 4 1/2 out of the box spend less than five minutes on a little fettling. Another minute on honing and then he took a full width solid shaving 0.0002 thick from a 2 in wide piece of very curly maple. Kinda impressive. He did the ruler trick. He used a Trend double sided diamond stone. 325 on one side 1000 on the other and polished on a 16,000 Shapton. Honed in less than 30 seconds. I almost bought the plane… But I would have trouble justifying it to myself.. I already have 4 very good smoothers. I am going down to the shop after the Cowboys game is over. To see how thin a solid shaving I can take with my sharpening method.

-- Ron in Kokomo


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Ron Harper

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#1 posted 10-27-2013 08:04 PM

Should have said the plane was a Wood River

-- Ron in Kokomo

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#2 posted 10-28-2013 06:55 AM

The woodriver 4 1/2 looks like a good plane. I bought a #6 after seeing one of Rob’s demos myself and now use it all the time.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#3 posted 10-28-2013 11:59 AM

I saw him on TV Saturday honing a blade. Good stuff. I hope you stayed away from sharp objects after watching the Cowboys game yesterday. I caught the last five minutes.

-- Dan, Naperville IL, I.G.N.

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#4 posted 10-28-2013 12:56 PM

I’m looking for a way to get a coarse, medium and fine plane as cost-effectively as possible.

Plan A: buy a vintage 5 (coarse), a vintage 6 or 7 (medium) and a vintage 3 or 4 (fine) from eBay. Cost somewhere between $150 to $200. No real way to tell what I’ll be getting.

Plan B: buy those three planes from a antique tool dealer who promises to deliver 3 units that are suitable for use (flat soles, no major rust, no missing parts). Cost $240.

Plan C: buy a new #5 from Woodriver and get three blades. Camber one significantly (coarse), camber one slightly (medium), and camber one just a tiny bit (fine). Cost $205 normally, currently on sale. But do I also have to buy a grinding wheel? Or an I produce the necessary cambers using sandpaper (which is is how I am going to sharpen, for now at least).

Plan D: follow the advice of FWW magazine from Jan 11 and get a LN #62 Low Angle Jack and two additional blades. One toothed (coarse), one ground at 33 deg (medium) and one ground at 43 deg (fine). Cost $375. Incidentally, they recommend a 4th blade as well, which is left at that standard 25 deg bevel, for shooting endgrain. That’s another $40. And it is a function I haven’t covered in Plans A-thru-C, but do need to get this covered as well.

Anyone have any thoughts?

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#5 posted 10-28-2013 01:41 PM

Harvey… It depends on what you are making. Plan E. Could be get a good user 4 on ebay. 30 bucks Get an extra iron. And put little side to side camber on it. For rougher work. I have shelves full of planes. 75 or so. And I do 80 per cent of my work with a number 4

-- Ron in Kokomo

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#6 posted 10-28-2013 01:54 PM

Ron, sounds like fun. I haven’t seen Rob Cosman do that, but did watch Paul Sellers take a file to #4 plane iron to really screw it up and then have it shaving sharp in less than 3 minutes. It’s pretty impressive what those guys can do and removes the excuse of “it takes too long to sharpen”. I know I hone irons a lot more after watching that demo and have gotten much faster.

Harvey, instead of hijacking this thread, you might want to start one of your own. I’ll just say that any plan involving changing irons is not ideal. When you switch from cambered jack to smoothing, you are also going to have to make mouth adjustments each time. Changing the iron is quick, making the other adjustments isn’t. There are guys here on LJ who could fix you up with three good, ready to work users for less than $200.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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HarveyDunn

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#7 posted 10-28-2013 01:57 PM

I do apologize for “hijacking the thread” – I had not thought of that. Ron Harper, please forgive me.

It appears that new users are not allowed to start new threads. I tried last week, but it went into “time out” and never came back. There is another thread in which others are reporting the same problem.

Thanks for your advice. Is there a “for sale” or “want to buy” section on LJ?

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#8 posted 10-28-2013 02:00 PM

You could probably find the 3 planes for less that $100 at flea markets or antique stores in your area if you look around. Also, the antique street fairs usually have tools.

#5s and #6 tuned for rough work should be pretty easy to find. As Ron says, the smoothers are not that expensive as well. The jointer may be a bit more and a little harder to find.

What part of the country are you in Harvey?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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HarveyDunn

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#9 posted 10-28-2013 02:02 PM

Albuquerque. I have never seen tools at flea markets or antique stores here, and I don’t think we have any antique street fairs.

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JayT

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#10 posted 10-28-2013 02:10 PM

Harvey, sorry, I didn’t realize the site was having that issue ($#$^#^ spammers). Anywho, try posting the question here and you will get plenty of help without a hijack.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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#11 posted 10-28-2013 02:36 PM

Hmmm. New Mexico could be a challenge.

Also, Planes do come up for sale on LJs in the Woodworking Trade & Swap Forum

Don W sells restored planes and does a great job on the restorations.
http://lumberjocks.com/donwilwol

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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