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Wstein

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179 days ago

I am making a chess board out of flame birch and bloodwood, and I am following Steve Ramsey’s finishing method to try and get a high gloss/glass like finish. What is the best filler to use that won’t stain or discolor either the birch or bloodwood?

Thanks in advance,
Paul

-- I would offer moral support, but I have questionable morals - Me, 2005


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Nicky

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#1 posted 179 days ago

Minwax makes a product called Lacquer sanding sealer. I’ve used this with good results. Two coats minimum. Sand your first coat from 220 through 400. Your second coat start at 400.

Use a lacquer finish and sand between coats (sprays cans work well) You will need multiple coats (5 to 10)

Depending on how glossy a finish you want, you will need to sand with progressively higher grits of sandpaper.

I’ve done some musical instruments. My final coat of lacquer was wet sanded up to 1500 grit then buffed out to a glass finish.

Be sure to give your top coats enough time to cure before you sand. You don’t want to sand through the finish, just enough to dull the previous coat.

Any sealer or finish will discolor the wood. Lacquer based products IMHO are the most clear. Others may have other products to recommend.

-- Nicky

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#2 posted 179 days ago

So your saying don’t worry about wood filler with the lacquer sealer?

-- I would offer moral support, but I have questionable morals - Me, 2005

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#3 posted 179 days ago

The lacquer sealer will fill the pours and minimize discoloration. The downside is the multiple coats required to build up the finish.

Yes, I’m saying don’t worry about a wood filler.

-- Nicky

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#4 posted 179 days ago

Ok, good info. I was not looking forward to trying to match the birch and bloodwood with filler. A couple of coats of lacquer filler sanded in between is no biggie

-- I would offer moral support, but I have questionable morals - Me, 2005

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#5 posted 179 days ago

One more question, in the Ramsey YouTube video, he used wood filler then shellac to seal the wood then lacquer. Does the lacquer sealer replace the filler and shellac? Sorry to keep asking questions, just trying to make sure I nail this.

-- I would offer moral support, but I have questionable morals - Me, 2005

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#6 posted 179 days ago

If I remember correctly, this was a maple/walnut board (Steves).

After Steve filled the grain, he gave it a shellac sealer coat. The filler he used, and the shellac gave the wood an amber tone.

You are contrasting two very beautiful woods, that don’t have large pours (like walnut). I mention the lacquer sealer because it won’t discolor like shellac (or ploy finishes) and will fill the grain. The lacquer sealer replaces the filler and shellac.

Sand between coats of sealer, then apply clear lacquer coats, again sanding between coats. The trick when sanding is to level your last coat.

YouTube has many examples.

-- Nicky

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#7 posted 178 days ago

that answers my questions, thanks much
Paul

-- I would offer moral support, but I have questionable morals - Me, 2005

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