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Forum topic by SirTonka posted 10-20-2013 09:55 PM 1671 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SirTonka

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10-20-2013 09:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: oak ash pine question

Last fall a large portion of my family property in Milledgeville Georgia was logged, mainly the back 40.
The loggers left about half a truck load of timbers in the field by the processing and loading areas.
Went out and took some pictures today. Not sure which logs that have been on the ground are salvageable for lumber, or just have seasoned into firewood. Pine pile with the hardwoods mostly white and red oak, ash, poplar, and maybe a hickory dogwood or elm log too.

Light on cash at the moment, so I am searching for a sawyer in the middle Georgia area that would like to barter milling in exchange for a percentage of the lumber. One other person and myself would be helping with the milling. Also have two storm blown oaks that I would like to mill along with four pines and a few hardwoods still standing.

The property does not have a tractor to move the timbers to a central area, but I can fell, limb, and section the logs to be moved with a truck and chain. What else is necessary to help along the future milling?


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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 10-20-2013 10:22 PM

If I was any where close, I would do it for you. Travel is a little inconvenient.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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SirTonka

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#2 posted 10-20-2013 10:42 PM

That would be a good bit of travel Monte, thanks anyway.

Any idea if the year old pine and hardwood piles are good for lumber?
Is the timber an acceptable amount for a sawyer to be interested?
And what would be a fair and typical percentage?

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Don W

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#3 posted 10-20-2013 10:57 PM

you should be able to get lumber out of year old pine. I’ve cut some much older than that.

Some of the logs are to small for logs, but some look pretty good. I too wish you were close.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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SirTonka

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#4 posted 10-20-2013 11:48 PM

Don, was reading through the chainsaw link and your blog just the other day, great work all around.
I happen to have an old sperber chainsaw mill, but I sold the accompanying Stihl 076 AV with 30” bar to go long distance hiking in the woods for a season.

Here is what the sperber looks like, 24 inch wide cuts.

Plan to pick up another power plant to mill again, but for the moment with this amount of lumber I hope to find a local sawyer. Though in the future I can see myself with a true milling operation

And good to know about harvesting from old pine, any thoughts on the standing dead pines?

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Don W

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#5 posted 10-20-2013 11:51 PM

I bought my bandsaw mill after a storm. I got some quotes to have the lumber sawn, and it was well over half the price of the mill. I knew it was to much for this old back with the chainsaw, so I bought the Hudson.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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SirTonka

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#6 posted 10-21-2013 04:44 PM

Plan to build a swing blade circular saw or bandsaw mill, but right now any cash I save is going toward equipping my workshop. With bartering a sawyer rate, what kind of a percentage should I be expecting?

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#7 posted 10-22-2013 03:33 PM

Tons of variables, but 33-50% of the load would be typical here in NW Oregon. Bugs are your enemys, I am unaware of your location but termites would be having a nice snack on it all by now if they were here. Best to get it done soon if at all. The sections that are in contact with the ground are the biggest worry, those resting above should be perfectly fine.

-- Power tools put us ahead of the monkeys

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#8 posted 10-22-2013 03:42 PM

I’ve done the barter like that once for a neighbor. We did 50/50. We were both happy, but I’m not trying to make a living or even make money at it, so I’m sure the type of wood will make a big difference. It takes about the same amount of time to saw an oak log at $4/BF as a pine log at $.75/BF.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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SirTonka

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#9 posted 10-22-2013 05:10 PM

Nomad, Georgia does have termites but at a moderate level, could be much worse like the damage I heard about in New Orleans. Hoping a sawyer will be available before winter, otherwise my options are limited.

Don W, For the pines I am happy milling large beams to speed up the time spent on those timbers, with the oak I plan to mill wide plank flooring up to a 2,500 sq ft coverage, beyond that need would be siding, furniture, and cabinetry dimensions. Having a good selection of trees at the ready, the exact board feet is variable. Personally, I’d like to thin out crowded hardwoods and go ahead mill everything at once.

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