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Forum topic by MarkwithaK posted 10-20-2013 06:10 PM 1626 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-20-2013 06:10 PM

A few years back I bought a Ridgid R4511 and it has been a great saw for me. Yesterday after cutting some dados and then re-installing a rip blade I tried to adjust the height. The blade does raise up a bit but then a heard a ‘pop’ and it dropped back down. I though this was odd seeing as how it was working fine up until then. Opened side cover and watched the action. Seems that the arbor pivot has gotten work to the point where several of the fingers, for lack of a better term, no longer make solid contact with the worm gear. Identifying the problem was the easy part….fixing may or may not be.

Obviously this model is no longer available from Ridgid and of course the only part I need is also no longer available. I immediately thought of the Lifetime Warranty and dug out the original receipt….that was when I noticed the registration card. Apparently I forgot to mail it. After cussing myself for an appropriate amount of time I moved on and set upon trying to find a way to fix my issue.

I was considering having one made by a machinist friend but hen I remembered that this was not a proprietary design. I know that Steel City was the actual manufacturer but please correct me if I am wrong. That being the case wouldn’t it make sense that the part MAY be available from them? If that is the case does anyone know which model(s) are compatible with the Ridgid branded version?

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#1 posted 10-20-2013 06:47 PM

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#2 posted 10-20-2013 06:50 PM

I certainly wouldn’t let the warranty card issue hold you back from contacting Rigid. If they really need a warranty card to fix your problem you can still fill it out. I’d start w/ Rigid.

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#3 posted 10-20-2013 06:51 PM

Yes I have. Page B, figure B-43 is what I need….the only one listed as discontinued.

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#4 posted 10-20-2013 06:54 PM

It figures don’t it?

Good Luck with your search.

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#5 posted 10-20-2013 07:12 PM

I am not familiar with your specific TS but it sounds familiar to this: http://woodgears.ca/table_saw/repair.html

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#6 posted 10-20-2013 07:31 PM

I would also contact Steel City. I have called them several times a they were always helpful. Maybe one of their saws has the same part if they made Ridgid. Worth a try anyway.

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#7 posted 10-20-2013 07:43 PM

I’ve contacted SC about cross referencing but with it being a weekend I don’t expect to hear from them until Monday at the earliest. Keeping my fingers crossed that it matches up and is readily available. The nearest SC distributor is in South Bend but I figure if I have to make the hour drive it will be worth it….plus I get to visit Johnson’s Workbench again.

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#8 posted 10-20-2013 07:52 PM

SC should be able to sort you out. Otherwise there is a craftsman model of that saw and part should be identical. I have the same model sold under a different name, and there are the same and have identical parts just different paint jobs, decals, and some have cast tops instead of granite.

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#9 posted 10-20-2013 08:03 PM

I found 3 or 4 different SC saws, none of which I can positively verify as being compatible with the R4511. I did find parts lists for those models and they all have the same internals and the part number for the arbor lift bracket is the same. If I can confirm that they are the same as the ones in my Ridgid then I’m good to go.

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#10 posted 10-20-2013 09:23 PM

Mark, I believe the Craftsman 22116 is the same saw. You might try Sears parts for the piece you need. I’ld look it up and post the link but I’m on my phone at the moment.

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#11 posted 10-20-2013 10:13 PM

Well after the Bears dealt me my 2nd heartbreak of the weekend I decided to go look deeper into the first. I was able to pull the pivot bracket off the saw and as it turns out only about 1/32 or so (didn’t actually measure) of the center of the rack was worn. The outer edges are still intact. I used a fender washer to space the bracket over and I was able to get the arbor to raise and lower normally. It’s more of a temp fix than a legit repair but hopefully it will do until I can locate a replacement.

One thing I was kind of disappointed about was how poorly aligned the rack and pinion actually are. The edges of the rack will just barely ride on the ridges of the pinion which is leading to it wearing out. If these two meshed better I do believe the life span of that bracket would increase exponentially as there is a lot of material that isn’t making contact.

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#12 posted 10-22-2013 12:55 AM

I heard back from Terry at Steel City and he was surprisingly helpful. I didn’t have my hopes up simply because technically I have a Ridgid and not a Steel City saw but he attached a parts manual for the R4511 and saw that might have the part I need. I am impressed.

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#13 posted 10-22-2013 10:21 AM

Glad you found at least a temporary fix. If you pursue replacement parts, the Steel City 35925 and 35930 are two models that have the same guts as your R4511….there may be more. The Cman 22116 also has the same guts.

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#14 posted 10-22-2013 03:41 PM

About the meshing of the teeth. If you would go to the link kindly provided by kaerlighedsbamsen back in post #5 you would see that Matthais Wandell of Woodgears.ca addresses this exact issue and provides a detailed explanation of how to fix it.

If you can get a new gear segment through Steel City or Sears that would be good too, but Matthias’s modification would make any of those parts work better.

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MarkwithaK

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#15 posted 10-22-2013 07:20 PM

knotscott, I actually received another response from SC last night, at 7:30 PM no less, and they confirmed the part numbers I found. $39.99 shipped to me but being less than an hour away they are somewhat local. Incidentally that part number is SC10188.

crank I did watch that video but it does not apply to my situation. The gears on my lift bracket are integral and cannot be simply replaced without replacing the entire bracket as it is all one piece.

All in all I would say that this entire occurrence has showed me that Steel City has, in my opinion, a fairly exceptional customer service/technical support program. I had never really given them much consideration in the past but based upon this experience I will certainly not hesitate to consider them in the future.

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