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Forum topic by UpstateNYdude posted 10-19-2013 04:15 AM 1039 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-19-2013 04:15 AM

I have a few planes I was hoping you all could help me identify and a saw.

The first two are the same model I just can’t find any stamping from the obvious the third is just a broken up one thats appears to be missing the part that would be the help in identification although it does have a PAT no. on it.

Mohawk Shelbourne it’s about the length and width of a no.5 just no identifier on it to be had and no searching via the internet has helped thus far.

A very large Disston saw with very large teeth for a hand saw looks like a D12 but no wheat carvings and not entirely sure what the ROSE stamping is.

Any info on any of these will be helpful thanks ladies and gents.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG


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69BBNova

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#1 posted 10-19-2013 04:26 AM

The first and second block planes look like a No. 9 1/2 and a later No. 220…

The third I don’t know, maybe a 110 but I’m not really sure, never really cared for that style, so I never really read about them…

The saw looks like a later No. 7, I’m working on one now but mine has a lambs tongue, but the layout of the screws look like it should be for the 7…

The rose stamping is probably the owners name, from what I understand was quite common back then.

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#2 posted 10-19-2013 04:45 AM

The 9 1/2 looks right for some models the second one is definitely not a 220 though I have one that’s missing the knob and all I’ve ever seen on a 220 is a wood knob never a brass with a slide near the mouth.

After looking at the no.7 for the saw I’d say that is definitely what it appears to be, and I also am reading that it was common for a the owners named to be stamped in.

Thank you

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#3 posted 10-19-2013 05:00 AM

The odd block plane is a knuckle joint plane. Some
have an adjustable mouth, others do not. This is
my favorite style of block plane. The lack of mouth
adjustability is limiting in some ways but in general
it is a pleasant plane to use. A #18 perhaps.

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#4 posted 10-19-2013 10:12 AM

I second the 9 1/2 for the first one. The third looks like a knuckle joint plane to me as well.

The bench plane looks like it has some markings on the iron. Some close up pics of that, as well as a really close up pic or two of the plane from the back (preferably with the tote removed) would help in identifying it. Are there any markings back there?

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#5 posted 10-19-2013 12:22 PM

The blade has Mohawk Shelbourne on it and just above the tote stamped is MADE IN USA

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#6 posted 10-19-2013 03:30 PM

I just looked again and my eyes must of been closed…

On the second one I didn’t even look at the knob, and I also didn’t even see the lateral adjuster…

I wonder if I was even awake…lol

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#7 posted 10-19-2013 08:19 PM

Lol it’s all good I put this up late last night so you may have been partially sleeping.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#8 posted 10-19-2013 08:57 PM

I agree with a 9 1/2 on the first one. The second one looks like a 9 1/4, but I wouldn’t have thought they would have been made that color, but possibly.

the knuckle is probably a #18 like has been said.

I’ve seen the Mohawks but don’t know much about them.

Did you look here for your saw http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#9 posted 10-20-2013 12:25 AM

The Mohawk plane was made by Millers Falls. It was a secondary line for them.

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd

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#10 posted 10-20-2013 04:10 AM

I did Don thank you, that’s how I came about to the assumption on the D7.

Tbolt or Don are there any sites which dictate a model # for the Mohawk, after taking it apart there appears to be numerous stampings, on under the frog, and lever cap, and I believe under the tote…I’m pretty sure.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#11 posted 10-20-2013 11:57 AM

This is all I have http://oldtoolheaven.com/bench/economyplanes.htm

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#12 posted 10-21-2013 01:12 AM

Well considering all I can find for Mohawk is the 900 and the 814 and the 900 is a smoothing plane and the 814 is a jack plane I’m going to say that’s an 814 I have then.

Thanks Don

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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