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Forum topic by Micahm posted 181 days ago 1825 views 0 times favorited 28 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Micahm

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181 days ago

I am in search of a good 110v table saw and bandsaw. These will be my first table saw and bandsaw I ever owned, so looking for some input on a saw that will work for awhile. I would like to stick with 110v if possible or I would have to get the shop wired for 220v. So in the 110v range what would you suggest? Doesn’t have to be super portable, the most I would move it is however the cord is long.

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toolie

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#1 posted 180 days ago

ridgid 4512, grizz 661 or 715P. there’s a new powermatic, the pm1000, that operates on a 20A 110v line with it’s 1.75 hp motor, but it costs considerably more than a full fledged 3 HP cabinet saw from grizzly (the 1023 or 690). the 4512 from ridgid can be had for $400 if a HD can be located which accepts the harbor freight “20% of any single item” coupon. up from there, it’s the two grizzlys then onto cabinet saws, assuming jobsite mobility is not an imperative for you.

for band asaws, check out grizzly and rikon. watch for sales (griz has one now), which usually takes place around year end for rikon. the 10-325 and the 10-345 are two of their more popular models.

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Loren

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#2 posted 180 days ago

If you can find one the INCA 340 is among the best if not
the best small woodworking bandsaw ever made.

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GT350

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#3 posted 180 days ago

The best tablesaw, that almost feels like talking politics around here. My choices for the tablesaw would have to be a cabinet saw. My first choice is the 110v Sawstop PCS, I own this saw and it is very accurate, well built and the customer service couldn’t be better. If you aren’t interested in the blade brake I would look at the Powermatic PM1000, I think it has a few features that are a little better than the Sawstop, like the fence, if you are getting the 30” and the miter guage. It’s also a few hundred dollars cheaper. I’m sure there are some other nice saws but these are the two I like. If you buy a new saw make sure and buy a good blade because most don’t come with quality blades.

I haven’t looked at bandsaws lately but I would make sure it had at least a 3/4 or 1 hp motor.

Mike

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knotscott

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#4 posted 180 days ago

Best is pretty subjective and varies by budget, need, and what tools we’ve been exposed to. IMO, probably the Saw Stop PCS 1.75hp. The new PM1000 looks interesting but doesn’t offer the safety device, and isn’t much less than the SS PCS, so I see the SS as the better buy. >$2k.

You might be better off taking the plunge and getting 220v, rather than spend big bucks to avoid it. The Grizzly G1023RL or G0690 offer a heck of a lotta saw for ~ $1350 shipped. 220v can be fairly simple and cost effective depending on your situation, and whether or not you can do some of the grunt work. Worth looking into anyway…

If 220 is absolutely out, and you don’t want to spend > $2k on a 110v saw, the Craftsman 22116 made by Steel City is a nice saw for ~ $950 on sale….granite top, yoke style cabinet mounted trunnions, Biese clone fence, full enclosure.

Best BS I’ve used is the Minimax MM16. The best bang for the buck is probably a Grizzly.

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Tedstor

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#5 posted 180 days ago

Without knowing your price range, but assuming you want to keep the costs reasonable:
Tablesaws
- I’d avoid the super-small jobsite saws, with folding bases. Good work can be done on them, but bigger saws with greater stability are better if you have the space.
- In addtion to the Ridgid/Grizzly, Lowes sells a Porter Cable saw (PC270) that gets good reviews.
- A craftsman 113. Series Contractor saw is a capable machine IF it is coupled with a good fence. You can find these saws on Craigslist for $200 or less- depending on condition and accessories ( I have a 113 with a Delta T2 fence and have no plans to upgrade until/if I can afford a cabinet saw).

Bandsaws
- I’d stay away from the smaller bandsaws. Most (not all) are junk and/or designed for only the lightest of duties.
- Go with a 14” saw. Most 14” Bandsaws have similar (if not identical) features. I see used Deltas on Craigslist for $300-400 all the time. In most cases, one of these saws will be of good quality and will last a lifetime.
- I have a Ridgid BS. It OK…..but just OK.
- If I were buying a new BS today, and I wanted to keep the price under $500, I’d probably (if not definitely) get the latest Craftsman 14” machine. I’ve fondled the store display on a few occasions and have been impressed with the quality/features. And its commonly on-sale for under $400 and can be shipped to your local store for free. Only downside is that it takes an oddball length blade that would need to be orderd. But since most of us order our blades online anyway, this isn’t really an issue in most cases.

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NiteWalker

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#6 posted 180 days ago

IMHO, Sawstop PCS 1.75HP, the PM100 looks really nice and the steel city 35950 (and it’s variants).
All 3 have cabinet mounted trunnions.

For a bandsaw, the rikon 10-325 has a lot of happy users. One of grizzly’s g0555 variants would be a great choice too.

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pmayer

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#7 posted 180 days ago

My vote overall on the table saw would be SawStop. If you want to go a bit cheaper I would take a look at the Ridgid hybrid saw which IMO is one of the better values on the market.

For band saw, it depends what you are planning to do. There are some decent benchtop units out there, but most of them are junk and if you have the space I would suggest a 14” model. If you are looking for the best saw that you can within the 110V limit, I would suggest taking a look the Laguna 14/12. Outstanding performance on both resawing and curved cuts for a saw in this class.

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

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#8 posted 180 days ago

I have the Ridgid 4512 and while not perfect, I have no regrets from a price standpoint. It is table mounted instead of cabinet mounted, but is IS slightly adjustable to the miter slot. I have diablo blades and I have had no problem cutting hardwood up to 3 inches thick. With the right jigs and a nice sled, it’s pretty sweet for sub 500 on sale.

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NiteWalker

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#9 posted 180 days ago

As great as the price is on the 4512, it’s a hit or miss saw IMHO, mostly miss.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Micahm

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#10 posted 180 days ago

So if I went ahead and went with a 220v would the Grizzly G0715P TS and the G0513ANV 17” 2 HP Bandsaw, Anniversary Edition from Grizzly both be a good deal?

-- The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me. - Tony Konovaloff

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Micahm

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#11 posted 180 days ago

I just don’t know what to do. I don’t want to spend a bunch of money on something I am not going to need. Most of the projects I look at can be done with a circular saw, so I wonder if getting a big expensive table saw right now would be worth it. I may just wait till I really see a need to buy one in the future, plus it will give me time to really think about what I want and need. Still will probably need a bandsaw though.

-- The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me. - Tony Konovaloff

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knotscott

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#12 posted 180 days ago

The G0715P is a lighter duty hybrid than the 3hp cabinet saws, and will run on 110v or 220v.

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Tedstor

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#13 posted 180 days ago

I think you’d be foolish to buy machines if you’re not sure you even need them. You’d be crazy to buy new, expensive machines under those circumstances.
Take some more time to think it over. Of course, you can always buy a quality used machine. That way, you could likely recoup your money if you find you don’t like/need the machine. A bandsaw would be a good first machine. Its easy/safe(ish) to use, and very versatile.

Craigslist is filled with good machines that someone bought new, barely used, and then sold for a steep loss. Be the guy that buys those used machines…..not the guy that sells them.

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paxorion

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#14 posted 180 days ago

I’m with Tedstor on this one. There certainly is danger in buying the tool JUST to check off the box (guilty here), but also splurging without really knowing what you’re going to do.

I’ve personally mulled over the question across a wide front. Research is great and all, but nothing beats hands-on experience. Your question was very open ended and leaves a lot for the community to assume are the needs, wants, and dreams. For example, I would classify myself as a hobbyist, but many of my bad purchase decisions came from not having hands-on experience with the tools. Having used a few contractor/cabinet saws and a few sizes of bandsaws I can speak to what would meet my needs for the foreseeable future.

Do you have any projects that you just can’t wait to roll up your sleeves to work with in mind? If so, I encourage you to find shops that you can spend some time in to build a project or 2 if you’re going to make a big ticket investment for stationary equipment. It will likely help you level-set your expectations and also change your mindset for requirements.

-- paxorion

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GT350

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#15 posted 180 days ago

If you think you might want a table saw but aren’t sure maybe what you should do is buy a good used contractor saw like a Craftsman with the motor hanging out the back. That is what I did and then I put a good Craftsman Aluminum fence on it. I later built a cabinet for it to set on to keep the sawdust down. I used that for almost 20 years and it worked very well for me until I upgraded to the Sawstop cabinet saw earlier this year. You should be able to find one for well under $200.
Mike

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