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Forum topic by b2rtch posted 10-15-2013 05:33 PM 830 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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b2rtch

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10-15-2013 05:33 PM

So now I have the refund for my welder (read the other post if you did not already do it) and so far no one asked me to return the welder,I imagine that the cost of shipping it back make this uneconomical.
So should I have this welder repaired or buy another one?

I ask the question because so far I found only two shops in all SLC which repair this kind of welders and one asks $95 just to look at it and the other one $80.00 just to look at it and neither one guaranty that they can repair it.

I can buy the same welder on Ali-Express again for$153.00 or on E-Bay for 180.00
Similar welders on Amazon are around twice the price.

What would you do?
Thank you for reading.
Bertrand

-- Bert


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#1 posted 10-15-2013 06:08 PM

Guys, I need your opinions.

-- Bert

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#2 posted 10-15-2013 06:21 PM

You got your money back on the first one, Right?

And, you know now that working with Mark will probably solve future problems.

So, I would take the refund and buy a new one from Alibaba

I would first contact Mark and tell him you are making a second purchase of the welder (preferably via email so you have a paper trail) and ask if he can baby-sit the purchase and shipping process, so that all goes well.

And while you are communicating with Mark regarding the new (second) purchase) ask him what he wants done with the original welder you still have.

Just my $0.02

-- We must all walk our own green mile

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#3 posted 10-15-2013 06:28 PM

Thank you Bruce.
Yes, I still have the original welder.

-- Bert

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#4 posted 10-15-2013 06:54 PM

What kind of welder are we talking about?

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#5 posted 10-15-2013 07:07 PM

A 200 Amps inverter welder,dual voltage if possible.
At work we have a Miller, with the same specification and TIG but it cost well over $2500.00.
This Miller welder is sooooo sweet

-- Bert

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#6 posted 10-15-2013 07:19 PM

I’m not sure about consumables for your China built machine, but if I were to over come the fear of getting totally ripped off (which you obviously have) my next concern would be where do I get parts for the thing.

I must admit I was looking at a plasma cutter from this source. And, about like you said, the price was super; $340 v.s. $2500 for an Esab or Miller. But then I wonder, where do I get new tips for the gun once I burn up the pack that comes with it.

Hope you resolve this and I’ll be watching to see how it comes out. Thanks for posting.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#7 posted 10-15-2013 07:33 PM

b2rtch, on the original welder, what was the fault? If i read right, when you strike an arc it immediately goes into overload and shuts down? The reason I ask is I have a small miller inverter, Miller Maxstar 150, that uses 110v or 220v but the unit does not appreciate diet food for stick welding. I have found it to be rather effective powered with 110v for TIG but as I said for SMAW it is fairly easy to overload if you are allowing excessive arc length. With all of that said, I do manage to complete some weld before overload. Like a lot of power tools, the available circuit load and extension chords play a part in line voltage loss also.

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#8 posted 10-15-2013 07:43 PM

casual1carpenter, there is no fault, it just shut down and the overload light comes on (or vice versa) as soon as I try to strike an arc.
I have tried several times, it did same thing each time.
I have tried on 110 and 220, no difference, my cord is 10 gauge and about 6 feet long.

-- Bert

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#9 posted 10-15-2013 07:46 PM

crank49, tips are standard, as far as I know they are all the same from one brand to the next.

-- Bert

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#10 posted 10-15-2013 07:49 PM

This is the welder I bought.
I paid 181.25 for it, last week it was on sale for $153.00.

http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/263788094.html

today :
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/IGBT-New-MMA-welding-machinezx7-200-Dual-Voltage-110-220V-Free-Shipping/472371489.html

The one star review is mine

-- Bert

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#11 posted 10-15-2013 08:05 PM

Two weeks ago I could bought 10 of these welders for $73.00 each!!

-- Bert

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#12 posted 10-15-2013 08:11 PM

buying cheap could end up being expensive. at least you got the refund. If you need a welder – just save up and get a quality unit. the cheaper ones simply don’t cut it for most uses.

unless you do have a specific use -and know for fact that this lower-cost unit will do the job…then I would just get another unit and scrap the malfunctioning one – or if you are up for the task, try repairing it yourself. but for the cost these guys want to just take a look at it (no guarantee to fix) its just not worth it – in my opinion

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#13 posted 10-15-2013 08:24 PM

I’m with C_Plus on giving them another chance. Worse case you are out the original dollars, best case you have the old one for some spare parts. I also believe that the vendor has been taught a lesson by your contact and will likely prove to be more responsive in future transactions. I had a similar experience with a Chinese company on a meter. When I told them it failed, I included photos of their meter connected to the same point (and at the same time) as another meter showing different measurements. It made it much easier for the “intermediary” argue my case for replacement. On an outright dead-on-arrival, you have no responsibility for return freight. If they want it back they have to pay the freight.

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#14 posted 10-15-2013 08:26 PM

My mentality is a bit different than some others. I try to buy mid-tier tools from a:
1- Local source
2- Reputable DOMESTIC online source
(in that order)
I don’t like hassles like the one you’re currently dealing with. I like to be reasonably sure that a product will work once I get it home. I like to be reasonably sure I’ll be satisifed with its performance. I like to be reasonably sure I can get my money back (without the help of C-level management) if any of my expectations are not met.

Look at it this way. You’ve scoured the internet looking for a welder. You ordered the cheapest one you could find. You’ve wated time waiting for delivery.You’ve wasted time trying to get it to work. You’ve wasted time getting refunds. You’ve taken it to two repair shops, neither of which wanted to touch it (without a diagnostic fee). And now you want to repeat that process?? If you have LOTS of time on your hands, then dealing with these headaches might be worthwhile (but I don’t see how). Otherwise, paying an extra c-note, for a similar welder, probably would have saved you several hours of your life that you’ll never get back. You’d be welding away right now if you dealt with a local source…..even if it were Harbor Freight. And I’ll bet you’ll end-up with a better welder too.

Just my honest opinion.

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casual1carpenter

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#15 posted 10-15-2013 11:07 PM

Bert, looks like you did all of my first thought things right. I keep flipping to that linked page with the currently price and what shipping would be if it were not free. $135. – $52 cheapest shipping listed = $83????? After your first experience, which you got out of with Marks help, I don’t know that I would go to that well again. As far as repair shops go, I would not bother. While it is true that it might be something obvious to the tech inside and a quick fix if it requires parts the diagnostics and repair bill will likely be more than the value of the welder.

Any chance you can just use the welder at work or perhaps borrow it for a weekend?

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