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WOmadeOD

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10-13-2013 05:34 PM

Topic tags/keywords: video tutorial question

Help me improve my video tutorials:

Hi, my name is Mitch, and I’ve been working wood for years.
Originally I was a power woodworker, but for the last decade I’ve concentrated much more on hand work and traditional practices.
I’ve reached the point where I would like to share my skills with a wider audience, and have started to film a collection of videos with that aim.
So far I am posting these on my YouTube channel, WOmadeOD, with backup on my website, WOmadeOD.co.uk
Please take a look. Hopefully you may find something useful there, either now or in the future.

How you can help:
What topics would you like to see tutorials on?
Should they be single long videos, or split into a series?
What basic level of knowledge should I assume?

All comments welcome, thanks

-- Design, Build, Inspire. (www.WOmadeOD.co.uk)


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kaerlighedsbamsen

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#1 posted 10-13-2013 07:10 PM

Hi Mitch,

Great to see experienced people sharing what they know! Have just looked over your blog and some of the videos.

Some thoughts on what could better:
- The videos are way too long. Or rather – there is too long inbetween the usefull information. I recomend cutting them down a lot. Consider perhaps using woice over when you are working. Mix drawings, photos, text, closeup/totals, speak, work and theory. This will give much more consentrated information. Make sure you have a storyboard or et least a clear idea wat to do before filming. Let the videos start by explaining what you are making and where it will end. Generaly raise your ambitions on the videos to match those of your skills as a woodworker.

Some thoughts on what i would love to see more of:
- Your furniture are beautifull! Share why you are a woodworker, what drives you in the shop and why this style is your favorite
- Those joints look difficult. Get into the little details about it (keeping consentrated information in mind)
- You have a clear visual line. Let us know what your design process is and how that can be usefull to the viewers
- Keep the knowledge level high. There are SO many make-things-in-30-minutes-easy-videos. You are skilled- let your videos be the same. This will not cater to all but those that like it will be gratefull
- Get out of the shop. Make interviews, portraits, vist interesting places, show your kolleagues workshops etc
- You have great tools. Tell us what are need-to-have/nice-to-have/useless
- If you want viewers on YouTube you need to consider what your chanel is about. Are you a cabinetmaker, a plane restorer etc? Focus and get attension
- Give someting of yourself. Let us know what you think about things, what you like and dislike. Tell us your story!

Hope this was usefull?

-- "Do or Do not. There is no try." - Yoda

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Benvolio

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#2 posted 10-13-2013 07:39 PM

Hi Mitch

Firstly, I just want to thoroughly agree with the previous poster.

I’ve been watching for a while now and I enjoy your videos.

I’d suggest that they can sometimes come across as a bit clinical.

This is great if your audience (like us lot) wants a dry hardcore no nonsense woodworking video – but that type of audience probably won’t learn anything about making a half lap because they’ve done zillions of them over the years.

That’s not to say as woodworkers we ever get to the stage where we stop learning, but I think we watch youtube videos just to …. hang out in someone elses workshop in a way… share tips; see what tools and techniques other people use and what they think is a normal way to approach an operation.

With this in mind, I think you could maybe look at making the videos more personable.

If you look at the `bigguns` on youtube at the moment – we talk about Steve (not `WWMM`) and Marc Spagnouounolunuo (not the `wood whisperer`); People talk about Shanon (not the `renaissance woodworker`) and Matthias (not `Wood Gears`).... furthermore, people talk about David Marks (not `Wood works`) and Roy Underhill (not `The Woodwright`)... my point is – your audience wants to feel a connection to a real person, not a series of lessons or a brand.

The most liked youTubers are the ones whom their audience feels are known to them as real people. Mark shares his family photos, Steve shares his stories about his son, Matthias talks about his father and Shanon – well although he doesn’t talk at length about his personal life, when he does speak, a big portion of the video is the camera pointed at his face so the viewer feels they share a connection. (I’m not sure you even mention your real name on your chanel or website).

I guess it’s kinda like the first rule of standing for election – people will vote for the person they want to have a pint with.

With regards what your content – I liked the joint series, but thought they could be punchier as the latter ones had a drawn out feel to them – personally I enjoyed the real time feel of them, but as a video I think that they shared a lot of common material (re: knife walls etc) that could have been cut.

I mentioned at the start about how if you have an experienced audience, they might not be online for basic tutorials but I think everyone likes projects. People like to see what you as a woodworker can create which gives context to the skills videos – like the joint series. It also gives you credibility to what you can make and why people should believe in you.

Your three questions:

1) what topics would I like to see tutorials on?
Are you sure you want to do tutorials? Do you want people to come to your channel to be spoon fed education, or to join you for the woodworking ride and community created thereof?? I guess either way you’d probably incorporate tutorials so I would suggest you don’t do tutorials to a schedule but maybe do what Marc does and share micro-tips in amongst his current project. Ie, if his project requires a drawbore, he’ll make a video on that; ditto for when he needed to make a router rail; milling wide boards; wiping finishes etc.

2) long videos or a series?
several videos is better for your ad sense payouts – let’s be honest. I think people like to see projects in stages. But when you edit the epidoes, I’d suggest you bookend them with ``this is what we’ll achieve`` and ``this is what we have acheived`` so they have context. That way, rather than being a pain in the arse ``video 245 of 8765`` like `Ask Woodman` uploads, your video will be something like ``project thingy: milling the stoclk`, then ``project thingy: cutting the joinery``. You know what I mean.

3) what should be the assumed level of woodworking knowledge?
Good question. Wherever you pitch this, it’ll alienate someone so I don’t think there’s one `right answer` but I suppose there would be an equalibrium somewhere. I think it’s important to remember that people probably won’t watch one video – they watch several so you don’t have to explain the same things each time – in fact it can build your click base to reference other video tutorials you’ve done on the subject. Eg, when it comes to smoothing, you can perhaps say ``now take your well set up smoother… If you’re not sure on how to set up a smoother properly, click here for my tutorial etc``

All in all, like I said at the start, I really enjoy your videos, but I think if you were to focus on:

  • communicating and connecting more personally to your audience,
  • be punchier in your editing
  • show more projects that use the micro-skills you share

then your channel will grow a lot more.

Hope some of this helps and it’s not been too offensive or anything

Ben

-- Ben, England.

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Benvolio

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#3 posted 10-13-2013 07:49 PM

Just a quick add on to your question about how much knowledge should you assume your audience has: If people can see you create fine woodwork, they’ll assume you’re talking at a high level.

Steve makes a point of pitching low level projects (although he has capable of much finer woodworking) and his audience is tuned to that level of expertise… conversely, Marc …ahem… claims to be a very talented woodworker and as such – his audience resonates at that level.

For you, if you share your great woodowrking projects, people will know they’re listening to a craftsman and not a weekend warrior and with that, if they don’t know what you’re on about – they’ll find it out to get to your level.

-- Ben, England.

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WOmadeOD

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#4 posted 10-14-2013 08:08 PM

Thanks guys,

I take on board all you say – it certainly isn’t the easiest thing to self-analyse!

Thank you for sharing your views so thoroughly, I really appreciate it.

Hope you keep looking in on the channel, and notice some improvements as time goes by.

Mitch

-- Design, Build, Inspire. (www.WOmadeOD.co.uk)

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Hinge

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#5 posted 10-14-2013 09:09 PM

Womadeod, three comments on half lap and miter joints:
1. Please don’t post a video unless perfect. There is too much competition on YouTube. Your miter joint video has some out of focus scenes.
2. In the same video you explain and show but in one scene what you are trying to show is out of the frame of the camera.
3. Even though I have made many miter joints I still like to watch other folks and other techniques. No matter how many times we have done something “perfect” there is room for easier and better techniques.
4. With a little more attention to detail you will have a fine video series. I am talking production not woodworking. Your woodworking techniques are very good. Not that you need my endorsement.

Nice bench and tools. I also like the gull sounds. You must be next to water. Although in the states you could be next to a trash dump and get the gull sounds. :-)

-- The Lord is my Savior

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