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Forum topic by ScottKaye posted 10-07-2013 09:15 PM 1164 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-07-2013 09:15 PM

I have an opportunity to buy a nearly new as in maybe less than 1 hour on the machine, Perfomax 16-32 drum sander. Whats a fair price? I need to make an offer that wont be insulting but is fair for both the seller and myself. Ive had my eye on the new Supermax 19-38 and then this opportunity smacked me in the face. I know the designers of the 19-38 made a bunch of improvements over the 16-32 so it is a better machine but if I can get the 16-32 for a good price, I’ll go that route.

Scott

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#1 posted 10-07-2013 11:45 PM

i paid $225 for a ryobi 16-32 two years ago. i’ve seen units similar to the subject item go for $200 on up to $500. does i t come with any notable accessories? mobile base. in/out feed tables, rolls of papaer?

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#2 posted 10-07-2013 11:54 PM

No accessories are included with this deal at all. So it seems maybe its worth 500 or so in its present new (sh) condition.

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#3 posted 10-08-2013 12:07 AM

I sold mine for $250. Only had a few hours on it because I got so damned frustrated trying to keep
the arm parallel.
Not to rain on anyone’s parade, especially yours Scott, but I wouldn’t give a plug nickle for another one.

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#4 posted 10-08-2013 08:34 PM

I didnt think peformax had issues with arm parallelism. I knew there were some annoyances with tracking but I thought the parallelism was not a promblem. Can anyone else comment on this? I wonder if the same holds true about the new 19-38.

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#5 posted 10-08-2013 08:41 PM

I’ve got an old performax 16/32. I don’t know how old, I didn’t buy it new. No problems with parallelism, it’s perfect in that regard. And if it did need adjusting it’s fairly straight-forward. Tracking of the converyor belt does needs constant adjustement, but I’m using an aftermarket belt because I ruined the first one and I can’t guarantee the replacement one is correctly made, (I think it’s almost 1/16th longer in front than in back because they glued it crooked) so it may be the problem. I had problems with getting the paper tight enough. I converted it to hook/loop and solved that but other users told me they just figured out how to install the paper, use it once, and then retighten.

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#6 posted 10-09-2013 05:15 PM

I have the supermax. It is an awesome machine…I have had no problems with anything. I have only sanded up to 24” width though. It seems to be parallel and tracks well…he only issue I have I ever had is a lot of my woodworker friends want to “visit” it with a project in hand…..

I have only seen the 16-32 around here for 450 and up….I have never even seen the delta drum sander for less than 400….that is why is sprung for a new supermax
Mike

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#7 posted 10-09-2013 05:19 PM

They sell for $1100 new. I sold mine for $700 on Craigslist but it had a ton of sandpaper rolls ($300-$400), and the in-feed out-feed tables ($150) with it. The new owner will probably not have to buy sand paper for years. I would say a Performax 16-32 in excellent condition is worth about $0.50 on the $1. So $1100/2 = $550 give or take is a good ball park.

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#8 posted 10-09-2013 05:45 PM

For furniture, I don’t recommend buying one. Some
people love them, but I have fussed with them plenty
and found them slow and troublesome.

For making acoustic guitars, miniature work and smaller
craft projects drum sanders are useful. I have made
ebony guitar binding with one and for that they
are a delight. The conveyer on the Performax is well
suited to dimension sanding guitar parts but for
heavier boards the sander tends to make a lot of
drum marks, sometimes so deep they take a lot of
work to remove or even ruin a board for its intended
purpose.

In furniture and cabinet work they create more problems
than they solve, in my opinion. I have two and one
with the cantilever is way more trouble than the
closed one.

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#9 posted 10-09-2013 06:44 PM

Thanks for all your responses. I decided to buy a drum sander after visiting a friends shop and fell in love with his machine. (Jet 22-44)
@moke If you had to do it all over again, would you buy the 19-38 supermax or would you settle on a 16-32 for less than half the cost at $600? Other than the table latch that tilts the table down .003” and the extra 3” inches what other improvements does the supermax have over the perormax?
Scott

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#10 posted 10-09-2013 06:46 PM

Also, forgot to mention that I got off the phone with supermax and it appears Acmetools.com is going to have a 10% off sale coming up in either Nov or Dec. So a $1399 drum sander becomes $1260 with free shipping.

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#11 posted 10-09-2013 07:08 PM

$500 is a good price If is barely used. I bought my 16-32 new and use it a LOT. Learn how to use it well and you will have no problems. It takes patience because it does not like to be cranked down on the board too tight. make light passes. No belt tracking problems either. If u can get it for $500, go for it

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#12 posted 10-09-2013 11:16 PM

Well, my decision has been made for me. Im a Federal Employee who has been deemed “essential” so I get to go to work everyday, but wont be getting paid anytime soon unless Congress can get their derrier’s in gear. She who must not be named (boss) said no toys until I start recieving a paycheck again. So it looks like I’ll be waiting for that acme tools 10% sale and hope by that time I’ll be able to cash in some of those Uncle Sam IOU’s!

Scott

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#13 posted 10-09-2013 11:39 PM

I have the Ryobi 16-32 … had if for over a dozen years. Best tool I ever bought.

Performax 16-32 is the same. I would recommend it hands down.

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#14 posted 10-09-2013 11:56 PM

Don’t worry Scott, I heard they made thousands of these things and I’m sure that Acme will still have one when you get some cash (unless Wile-E Coyote buys them all up). And although I’m sure the wife is wrong for thinking things like food and a roof are more important than tools, you might as well humor her this once, seeing as its so close to Christmas…

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#15 posted 10-10-2013 12:21 AM

I have the 16-32 and wouldn’t be without it. Anyone who has had a problem with parallelism hasn’t exercised the necessary patience and followed directions (two things I’m not noted for, by the way. It’s a good machine, if the price is right. I bought mine new several years ago and would give $200-$250 for a used one, if I needed another.

-- Bill, Thomasville, GA

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