|Forum topic by C_PLUS_Woodworker||posted 10-07-2013 06:16 PM||1382 views||0 times favorited||14 replies|
10-07-2013 06:16 PM
I started to post this as a reply on the current Forum Topic: ”Were tools really better in the past???......posted by Purrmaster.
I ended up going off-topic, so I thought I would post this separately.
*Issue is: How to judge and evaluate a tool before purchase…...........old OR new
The end user ( a regular guy) is usually in a very poor position to judge quality, in either new or old machines.
How can we judge how well a new driver is going to work?
We don’t know the quality of the engineering and manufacture or assembly of all the parts?
How can we judge how well an old drill press is going to work? We do not know what to look for and what is important and what is not.
I have have bought several power tools (new) that, after a little use…......... I HATED them.
I have bought new power tools and LOVED them. Case in point, my new Makita drill-driver set….and my new Rigid sander.
I think we here on LumberJocks are a small fraction of the buyers that buy tools.
Most other guys that shop at the Big Box stores, are just folks that need a particular tool around the house.
I think fewer and fewer people are doing significant construction around their homes. They hire it out. Or they buy the furniture or or the new deck or clocks or picture frames or boxes or etc etc.
They were not taught these skills because they were never exposed to it….... unless they lived around it …....or worked around it.
My sons have these skills, but more often than not, TIME (for work or family or recreation) is more important to them than is MONEY, so they pay to get something like furniture or shelving or cabinets or sheds or framing a basement bedroom, or building a deck etc.
But, when it comes to tools they REALLY NEED and want the BEST…..... they put in the time to buy what they need/want.
Tools are MUCH more important to me than to my sons.
Tools, to me, are kind of a “cellular and in-grained” need.
I use and have used my tools MUCH more than my sons have used theirs.
When they go shopping for new tools, they want a good bargain…....not too expensive…... but enough to get the little jobs done over a few years.
I want the best, even if I will rarely use it.
It is a NEED that I have.
Tools are IMPORTANT to me and I do not want to “tolerate” anything on a tool.
So, where does a tool junkie (which i think describes almost everyone on LJ’s) learn which tools are best….old or new????
I have NEVER had a resource like LJ’s to guide me to purchases.
I have never had access to such a huge data base of users and evaluators
I buy with MUCH more confidence now than I have in the first 30+ years of my life.
A very good example of a tool that enjoys almost universal approval HERE is the Dewalt 435 planer, which everyone on LJ’s that has one …..... just loves.
And, when my very old, bought used belt-disc sander died just a few months ago, I bought the $200 sander from Rigid that is receiving great reviews on here.
I didn’t even “shop”. I actually “shopped” right here. And then just went and bought it.
Before, it was talking to a buddy and maybe reading a magazine…....”Hey, whatchalike about this tool”
I got “Just one man’s opinion”.
Now I can get thousands of opinions about ANY tool inside of an hour.
OK, back to that other post I mentioned.
There are quality new tools and there are quality old tools. And vice versa.
And we all can make decisions better because of LJ’s….... which contains our own tool successes and our own tool disappointments …........and we write about our experience/opinions….....and we make and share our tool own assessments public, or at least to us guys that look to LJ’s for guidance.
As a general rule, I think NEW hand held power tools are better.
But, when it comes to my floor mounted router table with it’s lift and all it’s goodies, you would have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
It is all about WANTING the best…...........wanting to know WHY it is the best….and knowing WHERE to look for guidance.