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Forum topic by DKV posted 289 days ago 993 views 0 times favorited 28 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DKV

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289 days ago

All you guys that do woodworking for a living have a jointer and planer, at least I think you do. For you hobbyists out there I have a question. When preparing for a project do you mill and prepare your lumber, count on s4s from the big box stores or just go with what you have and hope for the best? In the beginning I found it extremely difficult to “bring it together” using wood that was not square and flat with parallel faces. Thusly, I bought a jointer and planer. It’s been heaven ever since. Even the s4s stuff normally has a cup, twist or bow in it that makes woodworking difficult. Do you mill your lumber with machines, handtools or just go for it. If you just go for it how do you overcome some of the challenges of say bringing four miter joints together? Tips and tricks are welcome.

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.


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CharlesA

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#1 posted 289 days ago

I’d love a jointer, but I have done without by:
1) increasing my proficiency with a fore plane and jointer plane.
2) use a sled on planer

I also find that cutting pieces to closer to final length makes them easier to joint the faces.

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DKV

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#2 posted 289 days ago

Charles, in other words you do prep your wood. You use handplanes and I’m assuming a router setup to flatten the boards. Nice…

How about you folks that just “go for it”? How do your projects turn out?

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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#3 posted 289 days ago

I don’t use the router to flatten boards (with the exception of a live edge piece with a major convex top). Once I figured out how to use the fore plane and jointer plane (and having them sharp!), I’ve been pretty successful at flattening boards. I try to choose wood that is flat and that can just be run through the planer for the faces. I can flatten the edges pretty quickly with the plane now.

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RibsBrisket4me

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#4 posted 289 days ago

As any of you can see from my projects page, I am a hobbyist and pretty medicore woodworker.

My work was even worse before I got a jointer and planer. HAHA.

Edge joint, face joint and plane all by machine.

I need my stock as square as I can get to even get my medicore results. ;)

-- http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid6255915

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Moron

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#5 posted 289 days ago

if you started out as a hobbyist ? and 43 years later returned as a hobbyist ?

can one comment ?

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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eddie

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#6 posted 289 days ago

i wish i had a jointer but tiil i do. to get it as workable i use a hand plane ,and the table saw ,and a planer

-- Jesus Is Alright with me

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Henry Mowry

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#7 posted 289 days ago

I’ve found that my 13” planer is essential for my projects. I can’t expect to find any given thickness of hardwoods locally (I live in the suburbs of LA). Want 1/2” walnut? You have to make it yourself.

I got a 6” jointer for Christmas a few years ago … and I hesitate to say I’ve never really used it. I’ve found that my table saw with Biesemeyer fence is accurate … and if the board is too cupped or twisted for the saw to straighten it out, I don’t use that board.

Will using the jointer improve the results I’m getting?

-- Henry Mowry, Santa Clarita, CA, http://www.MowryJournal.com

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Moron

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#8 posted 289 days ago

I am hoping a jointer/planer can improve my skill set again

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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jumbojack

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#9 posted 289 days ago

I personally cant do work, I approve of, with out a jointer and planer. Miters dont come together, edges dont line up nearly impossible to square up. I admire guys who can get reasonable results with hand tools. Squaring lumber with hand tools is a skill I intend to learn…..now that I have retired. One glorious week so far.

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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Moron

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#10 posted 289 days ago

well said jumbojack

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#11 posted 289 days ago

I use rough lumber and S3S from either the local hardwood dealer or from an online dealer. All the rough stuff gets initial milling but not final milling until I am ready to use it in project. The S3S stuff gets broken down in the smaller compents of the project and final milling if required.

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DKV

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#12 posted 289 days ago

I should add stop blocks to the list. Unless all your pieces that are supposed to be the same length are the same length you’re in trouble.

Moron, you can contribute whenever you like.

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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BArnold

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#13 posted 289 days ago

I’m basically a hobbyist, but I’ll take a commission under the right circumstances. I prefer to do what I want to do when I want to do it rather than be tied to a specific schedule.

In most cases, I break down rough lumber into pieces a bit larger than I’ll need before jointing and planing. If a piece is wider than my 6” jointer, I send it through my planer taking light cuts until a face is flat. In some cases, that requires putting it on a sled and blocking a corner or two.

I have a shop full of good tools that I could only dream of a few years ago. Many people I meet just don’t understand what it is to be a hobbyist woodworker. It’s interesting to have a conversation with people who ask when I have time for golf or tell me what a great boat I could have with the amount of money I have tied up in my shop. Some folks just don’t understand! :-)

-- Bill, Thomasville, GA

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Jim584

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#14 posted 288 days ago

My lumber comes 5/4 and roughsawn I count on my planer and joiner. When I first started I just used my tablesaw for straight edges but as I progressed I found that I wasn’t satisfied with it. I recently bought a joiner and thus far am very happy with the results. Of course I am still very much a novice and have alot of room for improvement.

-- Just getting started.

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DKV

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#15 posted 288 days ago

Jim, novice schmovice…if you do not start with flat, square and parallel you are frustrating yourself and not improving. I do not care if you use machines or hand tools you need to get it right before you start glueing boards together. Glad you have a jointer.

-- 2014 will be a different year...at least for me it will.

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