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10-06-2013 02:47 PM

Topic tags/keywords: quality power tools

An “expert” on the genesis of major brands of power tools in the Canadian market speaks here:

http://homes.winnipegfreepress.com/winnipeg-real-estate-articles/renovation-design/Making-the-cut-or-not/id-3575#

Amusing reading, in my opinion!

Here’s the first few paragraphs of the article:

If you’re going to buy a chop saw, Ben McArthur of Canadian WoodWorker recommends spending the extra money to buy a Bosch 10-inch or 12-inch machine that is deadly accurate on 90-degree cuts, as well as bevels and mitres.
Cheap tools are the scourge of DIY builders and renovators. I say this because over the years I’ve fallen into the trap of purchasing inexpensive, blow-out-bargain-equipment that is shoddily constructed and guaranteed to produce unsatisfactory results 100 per cent of the time—discouraging to DIYers expecting good results from bad machines.
For this reason, I thought it would be interesting to examine the good, the bad and the useless of tools commonly used by weekend renovators who work out of small shops.
In the good category, there is General Manufacturing of Quebec that produces sturdy, reliable woodworking machines for the discerning craftsman at prices that—though considered high end—reflect the quality and accuracy of the products.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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#1 posted 10-06-2013 03:24 PM

The writer has nothing particularly significant to say. He just wants to piss and moan about the “good ole days.” It’s axiomatic that the more expensive a given product, the higher quality it’s likely to be.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#2 posted 10-06-2013 03:37 PM

From the article

There is also a Delta cabinet saw that features an electronic sensor that prevents serious injuries by stopping and retracting the blade if it is touched by a human hand.
“Even if you were to fall onto the blade, the worst injury you might receive is a tiny slice like a paper cut,” said McArthur.

What model of Delta is this? I thought this type of thing was currently limited to the SawStop line of cabinet saws. Have I missed something or is the author smoking something?

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#3 posted 10-06-2013 03:39 PM

“There is also a Delta cabinet saw that features an electronic sensor that prevents serious injuries by stopping and retracting the blade if it is touched by a human hand.”

Really? When did this Delta saw come out? Did Delta simply not bother to patent it and just give it to SawStop?

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#4 posted 10-06-2013 03:51 PM

And when did Ryobi ever build a ‘cabinet saw’?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#5 posted 10-06-2013 04:12 PM

Glad to see everyone was suitably entertained by the article.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#6 posted 10-06-2013 05:03 PM

From what I have read and heard,what lead to the demise of General was lack of innovation,and/or interest in updating a fifty year old technology.

-- Ken from Ontario

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#7 posted 10-06-2013 05:29 PM

I hope the author does not decide that for his next article he will test the “DeltaStop” with one of his body parts.

-- “While the world with closed eyes sleeps, The sky knows and weeps - steel rain. ” ― Nathan Bell

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#8 posted 10-06-2013 05:49 PM

poopiekat,

Why do you bold your text? Is it somehow more important than everyone else’s?
Roger

-- "Everybody makes mistakes. A craftsman always fixes them." (Monty Kennedy, "The Checkering and Carving of Gunstocks", 1952)

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#9 posted 10-06-2013 07:09 PM

That article is a waste of time.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#10 posted 10-06-2013 07:34 PM

I read the entire review and can’t believe the amount of mis-information this Ben McArthur has written. I enjoyed his comparison of a planer/jointer to a T-34 tank. I guess Russian tanks have greater notice over Abrams tanks. His statement; replacing a universal motor with an induction motor was strange. Universal motors are used in portable power tools and bench top tools. I don’t see how that type of motor could be replaced with an induction motor. Imagine a “Skil” saw with a 1HP motor connected to it. He also spells “Skil” saw as a Skill saw. Maybe he means you need “skill” to operate the saw. Unfortunately there are a lot of “experts” disseminating bad information and unfortunately there are a lot of people who read and believe it. Overall, it was an amusing, though inaccurate piece of writing that should be wiped clean from slates everywhere. If you want the truth, stay tuned to Lumber Jocks.

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#11 posted 10-06-2013 07:48 PM

This Ben McArthur is proof that you don’t really have to know anything to get an article published.

Edit: Actually, McArthur’s article is just symptomatic of the poor ‘journalism’ that manages to get published so often any more. This guy obviously didn’t bother to check/cross-check his facts, and didn’t familiarize himself with his subject matter. Sloppy.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#12 posted 10-06-2013 08:20 PM

MrRon,TheDane,Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
I also didn’t quite get the idea of installing an induction motor as a replacement to a universal type,how is that even possible without the pulley/belt and a contraption to hang the motor to the back of the saw,surely he didn’t mean to use an induction motor as a direct replacement,it wouldn’t fit.

RogerBean,the way I read the text made sense since it is a Quote from the article and not poopikat’s own thoughts.

-- Ken from Ontario

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#13 posted 10-06-2013 09:50 PM

I have a different take on the article because I too remember when woodworking machines were made in North America. No not all machines were perfect but many companies now long gone stood by their products and provided solutions to keep you going. Many of those old major brand companies still around no longer have the expertise to help customers with problems. It is all about getting units out the door!

Today it is all about how many units can fit into a container. While many companies do try to stand behind their products many, do not. You definitely have to belong to woodworking message boards and read owner reviews on vendor’s web sites to avoid the junk.

-- Bill

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#14 posted 10-07-2013 03:23 AM

The only way to “take” that article is to “take it to the nearest trash bin”.
What a piece of crap.
Total waste of time.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#15 posted 10-07-2013 04:18 PM

Like my signature says…

-- Anything is possible when you have no idea what you're talking about.

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