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Ron Ford

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278 days ago

I’m putting this question on the woodturners forum since the vast majority of my sawdust and shavings is produced while turning on my Jet 1642, primarily bowls. I also have a Grizzly 10” table saw, Rikon 14” bandsaw, 12” thickness planer, router table, and a drill press. I’ve gotten by so far hooking my shop vac up to the router table and thickness planer, and shoveling a large trash bag full of shavings from under and around the lathe every week or two. I just bought a Jet 1632 drum sander and think its time to add a dust collection system. I think most units have a 4” connection and that would work with all of these tools.

Space is a bit of an issue in my workshop, so a unit that is mobile and requires a limited amount of floor space would be best. My fellow Lumberjocks have given great advice to other questions in the past and I’d appreciate feedback here.

Thanks in advance, everyone!

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.


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Rick M.

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#1 posted 278 days ago

I use a broom and dustpan.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 278 days ago

I’d say with the drum sander a DC is an absolute must, in fact it may not work as well without it. Anyway, on to the lathe: what I have is a floor sweep next to mine, it gets used for the shavings. If I’m sanding, I have a “Big Gulp” dust hood hooked to a 4” line that I try to position in some fashion to provide air movement to capture that dust. This would work a lot better if I could get one with a 6” hose connection, as it is I can (sometimes) get a majority of the sanding dust, but never as much as I want.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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Ron Ford

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#3 posted 278 days ago

Just clarifying my original question: I’m interested to hear what brand, HP, CFM, etc. you find useful. Also, I see reference to dust separators. Is that a must-have as well?

Thanks again Lumberjocks!

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.

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knotscott

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#4 posted 278 days ago

I have an older basic Grizzly G1029 2hp. I upgraded the bags to a cannister and use 6” mains to 4” drops, and added a remote on/off several years ago. IIRC, it’s got a 12” impeller, and claims ~ 1600CFM. I used to have a trash can separator on it, but once I switched to the 6” mains and cannister, it just sucked the trash can clean. One of these days I’ll build a Phil Thien style separator.

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TheDane

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#5 posted 278 days ago

Ron … I have an Oneida cyclone hooked up to my Jet DC650. See: http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3242

The DC650 is equipped with a .5 micron canister and a bag that collects the fine dust. Just a guesstimate, but I would say 99% of the chips, shavings, and duct winds up in the trash can under the cyclone.

The cyclone has a 4” line that I connect to a Bug Gulp on a stand right behind the lathe. This same 4” hose is moved between the lathe, my tablesaw, bandsaw, jointer, planer, and drum sander.

Yes, I am dragging the hose around a good bit, but with the small (650cfm) DC, I don’t think there would be any advantage in running overhead pipes. When SWMBO increases my allowance, I plan to buy a new DC and install it in a storage room adjacent to the shop.

I really appreciate the cyclone when I am turning larger pieces … the trash can is much easier to manage than a bag on the dust collector.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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bbc557ci

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#6 posted 278 days ago

The 2 hp Harbor Freight DC is a pretty popular unit.

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 277 days ago

I use three HF 2hp units two of them are mounted outside which I highly recommend mounting them outside to save floor space,reduce noise. and to eliminate the need for high end filtration add on’s.

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crank49

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#8 posted 277 days ago

I use the Harbor Freight 2hp unit as well. Also have a Ridgid 16 gallon vacuum (5 claimed HP)

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jusfine

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#9 posted 277 days ago

I have a Oneida cyclone system as well, it is mounted on the main floor of the barn, my shop is in the loft, so all the ducting is under the floor.

Would never do it overhead again. Works great with gravity helping too!

Good luck with yours, you wil really appreciate it once you have it installed.

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Fred Hargis

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#10 posted 277 days ago

Mine is an Oneida cyclone, with a 5 HP motor. I’ve run 6” lines to everything I can…modifying the tools when I need too. My floor sweep is also 6”, a home made job using a 6” HVAC boot.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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Ron Ford

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#11 posted 277 days ago

Is anyone using the Rikon 60-200B? It is a 2 hp, 1250 cpm unit and Woodcraft has it on sale this month for $299.99.

Lots of choices out there, and many sound like they would do the trick. Any feedback on this particular one will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.

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Fred Hargis

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#12 posted 277 days ago

Ron, these units are pretty much all the same, after all it’s mostly a motor spinning an impeller. I looked at the Rikon and see it only has a 5 micron filtration, that would not be enough for me (BTDT). It lets the finest particles circulate back into the shop air. I would recommend you consider something that has 1 micron or better filtration. The Rikon does state that it has a curved impeller, that’s not common and desirable (usually) because they move more air than straight vanes. But the 1250 CFM they quote (as well as most others) is about as accurate as the 6.5 HP your shop vac has! Still, you’re looking at a very useable range of DC’s, but look at them based on features; 2 HP (check the amperage, for example the HF is actually about 1.5HP) 12” impeller, 1 micron (or better) filtration. Consider whether you want bags or a canister, you could upgrade later but it will add to the total outlay. You could also upgrade the Rikon bag to a tighter one, but the bags can be expensive.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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crank49

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#13 posted 277 days ago

I can only say, take a look at the Rikon, take a picture if you like, then go look at the HF. I dare you to find one screw that is different. $139 v.s. $299 ? Not a tough decision for me.

And, yes, they are both 5 micron. You can buy a 1 micron bag, but a better solution is to replace the bag with a cartridge. Better surface to air ratio with a cartridge. Or, do like A1Jim does and put the unit outside if you can afford the heat loss.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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CharlesNeil

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#14 posted 277 days ago

broom/ dust pan :) for turning ,has worked for over 40 years.

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Arlin Eastman

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#15 posted 277 days ago

I have two DC’s. A Ricon for my Lathe and which is 1hp and a Penn State 1.5hp for the other tools in the shop.

Arlin

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