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CrazeeTxn

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10-03-2013 02:50 PM

As I get along in my woodworking skills, I come to realize that my introductory tools have served their purpose and it’s time to move on. I still use them when I work on projects, but I also stay on the lookout for something better.

I came across this one. Looked at manuals and pics on OWWM and it looks like I could replace the motor on account I don’t have 220 much less know anything about 3 phase. What it would replace is a craftsman 6” benchtop jointer.

What are ya’ll’s opions just looking at it from the pics and desc? It’s about an hrs drive and hopefully he’s not set on his price seein it’s going to need some much needed TLC.

Thanks for any inputs.


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#1 posted 10-03-2013 03:05 PM

I’d definitely check it out. The old PMs (made in the USA) are far better than the current models made in the Asian rim, and make great tools when restored. I’m sure others will have more suggestions, but the things I’d check for are to make sure there are no cracks in any of the cast iron, the tables are level, hopefully the bearings are good and the nuts for blade changes can be moved—all items are listed in declining importance. Cracks are a deal breaker, tables can be leveled, bearings can be replaced and frozen nuts can usually be loosened with Kroil. I have a PM Model 60 (1996?) and absolutely love it, still right on without any resetting or readjustment, just replaced the head with a Byrd Shelix and boy is it smooth and quiet.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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#2 posted 10-03-2013 03:06 PM

That’s not a bad price for a working jointer. I bet it won’t need much other than cosmetics. Not sure if you can or how much a different motor would be. Maybe he will come down a little and make it worth the trouble of changing the motor. Good luck.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#3 posted 10-03-2013 03:09 PM

Also, on the motor, the originals were Baldors and although more expensive, their FCTE motors are top of the line and can be wired for either 220v or 110v. Segmented belts are also a great accessory.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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#4 posted 10-03-2013 03:15 PM

I like the Baldors as well. Tossed a coin between them and Leeson, and went with the Baldor on my t/s

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#5 posted 10-03-2013 04:31 PM

Easy to switch a jointer like that over to single phase. You just
need a motor and a switch. 3/4 hp is adequate.

Powermatic has a good reputation but the designs are hardly
unique to Powermatic. What you get with Powermatic’s
lighter machines most of the time is probably not better
wood cutting but better resale value.

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#6 posted 10-03-2013 04:32 PM

Looks like a nice project machine. It needs a new motor since you do not have 3 phase., and if you don’t know electricity, motors, and starters, add the cost of an electrical shop to replace the motor and re-wire the machine for you. That switch needs to be checked and likely replaced with one that can handle starting a motor load. A new SO or SOW rated cord and a plug will be another $45.00. Beyond that it looks like disassembly, cleanup, sanding and repainting would have it ready to go.

I’ve done similar restorations and they can be great machines, but it does have costs getting them converted, cleaned up and ready to run on single phase power.

-- Minnesota Woodworkers Guild, Past President, Lifetime member.

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#7 posted 10-03-2013 05:55 PM

Just my opinion. If you don’t have 220 that is the first place you should invest your money. You are limiting yourself on what you can buy by putting it off. As far as the jointer I seems to be a logical next step. I would try to get to for $100 since you need to change out the motor.

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#8 posted 10-04-2013 01:30 PM

Only 220 is hard wired for the heater.

The guy still has it. He said it’s too big for him and he likes newer technology. Me, I like old American arn.

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#9 posted 10-07-2013 01:04 AM

Welp, drove down and picked it up. Thanks to all your inputs…

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#10 posted 10-07-2013 01:27 AM

nice.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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