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Forum topic by paxorion posted 308 days ago 4269 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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paxorion

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308 days ago

I noticed that Woodcraft has a “new” offering of Groz Parallel Clamp. Based on the website picture, the clamps look strikingly similar to the current parallel clamp Jorgensen/Irwin design, possibly the old Bessey K Bodys, or a revival/rebranding of the old WoodRiver parallel clamps.

The sale price running until October makes it an interesting proposition as a starter set. I wanted to know if anyone has any thoughts as to whether or not this may be a bargain or dud.

-- paxorion


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RPhillips

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#1 posted 308 days ago

I say go for it.

They look pretty good to me and for the price I’d be will to give them a try. One set of Bessy 40” would cost at least that. I may have to jump on this as well. :) Thanks for posting.

-- Rob - Learning... one mistake at a time...

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#2 posted 308 days ago

If you are close to a Menards, you can pick up the Jorgensen on sale. 2 – 24” and 2 – 36” for $105. HD will price match and take off another 10%.

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paxorion

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#3 posted 308 days ago

No Menards near me so that sale trick won’t work. I’ve played around with quite a few different parallel clamps and found that…
- Jorgensens are the easiest easy to use when positioning the clamp head, but I find the wooden handle too slippery (best price I’ve found is at HD)
- Bessey K Body Revos have the best handle, but I’m not too big a fan of how aggravating clamp head positioning can be (best price I’ve found is at Lowes)
- Jet’s definitely top both the Jorgie and Bessey in clamp head positioning, easy of use, even if the handle doesn’t inspire as much confidence as either the Jorgie or Bessey…not to mention the price (Amazon or my local Woodcraft)
- Irwin’s (no actual tactile experience) seem to have a lot of complaints about the fine thread screws being a bit overkill, requiring a lot of turning (Rockler)

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bigblockyeti

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#4 posted 308 days ago

That Jorgensen sale sounds like a screamin deal. Is there a flyer for the sale? Is it for the cabinet master clamps or the lighter duty ones? Menards isn’t too close to me, but I don’t mind a short motorcycle ride to the nearest one, or better yet the HD only 8 miles away. I did find the cabinet master clamps on Menards website and they were on sale, but not as a set for $105. 10% off that and I’d think about buying two sets. I bought my Bessey K bodys over 10 years ago and when they were on sale, seems like the prices have shot through the roof on the new ones.

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crank49

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#5 posted 307 days ago

It seems this thread got completely away from the question about the Groz clamps.

I haven’t seen the Groz clamps in person. I do have a couple of their vises and a plane or two. Seems like they are not consistent. I really like the vises; that’s why I have two. The planes are pretty crappy to just okay.

Any way, with my experience pertaining to Groz products, I would have to say I would have to see and touch a few to decide.

As far as the Jorgensen clamps are concerned, I have 4 cabinet masters and about 50 or 60 of the “F” style and they are top notch products from a fantastic company in my book. I once emailed them with a question about why their clamps were being removed from some Home Depot stores and where could I still get their clamps. They replied that they did not know why, but it was a decision of Home Depot, then they asked which clamp I was looking for. I told them the deep reach super duty “F” style. In a couple of days guess what arrived at my door? A couple of #4912 clamps. Now that’s a class company.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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paxorion

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#6 posted 307 days ago

crank49 – I have to agree with you on the Groz products. I have 2 Groz planes and all I can say is, for the price…what did I expect? What initially shocked me about the Groz parallel clamp set was the $180 regular price, putting them well within the price point of a Bessey set from Amazon. If I was going to shell out that kind of money, I’d definitely splurge for a brand name.

For the sale price, the only price equivalent(s) I’ve found are the Irwin’s when Rockler has them on sale ($25 for a 24”, $30 for a 48”), or the ones from Peach Tree. I’ll admit a lot of my perspective has been heavily influenced by Fine Woodworking's parallel clamp test in #209, which I read before and after playing with all the parallel clamps I have had a chance to touch. And based on my window-shopping experience, I’d have to agree with FW’s conclusions that Jet > Jorgie > Bessey.

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paxorion

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#7 posted 8 days ago

For anyone who is interested, Woodcraft has recently marked down the price on the Groz parallel bar clamp set. It is now $79.99

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bonesbr549

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#8 posted 7 days ago

Good clamps bought 3 sets (of 4) last time they put them on sale. I like the metal handles better than the bessy ones. You can torque the handles better. Thanks for the heads up. I’m going to go pick up 3 more sets.

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paxorion

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#9 posted 5 days ago



Good clamps bought 3 sets (of 4) last time they put them on sale. I like the metal handles better than the bessy ones. You can torque the handles better. Thanks for the heads up. I m going to go pick up 3 more sets.

- bonesbr549

I hope you didn’t pick them up yet, because they are now on sale for an extra 10% off, at $72.

-- paxorion

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waho6o9

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#10 posted 5 days ago

Picked up 2 sets thanks for letting us know.

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