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Forum topic by David Theller posted 09-23-2013 12:31 AM 1143 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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David Theller

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09-23-2013 12:31 AM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer

Up until now i have been doing my jointing on a 1956 Shop Smith with a small 4 inch jointer, however this morning I found that it is not working, slow to start, followed by a grinding noise, followed by the power strip fuse blowing. I am now looking for a used jointer on a small budget. I thought I would turn here to see if you guys could give me some advice on models.

Size and power recommendations would be very helpful.

Any advice is very much appreciated.

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer


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lateralus819

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#1 posted 09-23-2013 12:40 AM

Ever thought about doing it by hand? It’s quite rewarding and doesn’t take much time at all. Could probably nab a #8 fairly cheap. Just a thought.

-- Never confuse mistakes with failure. Kevin

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David Theller

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#2 posted 09-23-2013 12:46 AM

I have tried, but with unsatisfactory results. I only have a #5s and #4s. Would the #8 make a great difference?

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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#3 posted 09-23-2013 12:53 AM

I bought a used Jet 6” JJ-6CSX off CL a few years ago, and I’ve been happy, except I wish it was an 8”. Made a planer sled for wider boards. I have a #7 that gets used frequently as well.

I’d get the biggest you can afford or fit in your shop.

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lateralus819

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#4 posted 09-23-2013 01:09 AM

It helps with longer boards, but I’m sure it will do. Heres a video that helped me TREMENDOUSLY. I mean it, until i saw this i couldn’t figure out what i was doing wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJfD0-fFAzI

I always thought to just run down the board, apparently i have tendency to take off more on the left side.

food for thought. Alot quieter too ;)

A used #8 goes for about $125.

-- Never confuse mistakes with failure. Kevin

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gfadvm

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#5 posted 09-23-2013 01:39 AM

There was an 8” Grizzly, spiral cutterhead, and 6’ bed on Tulsa CL tonight for $500. This is a rare bargain! And it looked almost new!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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HorizontalMike

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#6 posted 09-23-2013 01:54 AM

Dave,
If you are going to go the hand plane route, I would suggest trying to find a large wooden jointer. They are much, much lighter to use and can do a great job.

Here is my 22in Auburn with its big thick blade.

NOTE: The biggest issue with going the hand plane route is to have a good sharpening routine and/or system. Planes that are not sharp, or are not sharpened correctly can be a great source of frustration.

Other than that, CL has 6in jointers all of the time. Boatloads of folks start with a 6in and then move up to an 8in or larger, so they end up selling the 6in on CL. As @gfadvm points out, on occasion you may see an 8in pop up on CL. AS a matter of fact, that is exactly how I scored my 8in spiral head Grizzly G0593. I paid $700 for it when it was just 2yr old at the time. Keep your eyes out and good luck.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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David Theller

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#7 posted 09-23-2013 02:20 AM

First, thanks for all of the advice.

Laterlus, I would like to start using hand tools more and more. Thank you for the video, it’s amazing all the information on YouTube.

Craig, Space is a concern, but not a major one. do you mind asking what price range you got it for?

gfadvm, sounds awesome but to get my truck out there and back would double the cost!

Mike, i have been looking at getting a never wooden plane, I picked up an older one however the blade wedge is very worn/cracked.

CL has several that look decent, however I would of course want to look at them further. Can you suggest any of the better brands?

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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HorizontalMike

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#8 posted 09-23-2013 02:14 PM

Dave,
Here are a couple of ideas, since you truly want a “user”. I personally would find an old wooden plane 22-26in long with a good thick blade such as what I posted. From there I would rebuild a laminated plane around that blade with new lumber using the original plane as a guide. Building a laminated plane makes the cuts much simpler to do correctly.

Similar to these kits:
Ron Hock Kits

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Making your own from scratch:

David Finck -- Making and Mastering Wood Planes

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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MisterBill

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#9 posted 09-23-2013 07:55 PM

Dave,

Where are you located?

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#10 posted 09-23-2013 08:29 PM

Jet 6” jointer on a budget. I had one and it worked well, except it was often not wide enough.

Now I use a Delta DJ-20 8” jointer. It has 1-1/2 hp which is plenty. The extra bed width and length make it much easier to handle most boards I come across.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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firefighterontheside

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#11 posted 09-23-2013 09:39 PM

I bought a 6” grizzly that was about 20 years old for $225. I think I should have paid less, but they didn’t come up very often. I feel that the 46” bed is perfect for what I do. Longest thing I expect to joint is a 6ft table plank. So I would think in the range of $150 – $225 for a 6“.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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David Theller

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#12 posted 09-23-2013 10:36 PM

Sorry, college has gotten in the way of playing in the wood shop.

Mike, I will be looking into that book, making a plane has been a dream of mine. what would be the best lumber to use?

Master bill, I am in central Ohio, south of Columbus.

Pinto, a 6” would be a great step up, the bed on the little thing I have been using is less than 30”

Bill, the ones i was seeing on CL were closer to $500 for anything that was decent, both were deltas

-- if at first you don't succeed, get the bigger hammer

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 09-23-2013 11:14 PM

Dave,
David Finck takes you through all the steps of selecting the best wood and building. Follow the link I posted above and select the video link (on the second line of text). That should answer give you a better idea of what is expected and offered.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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firefighterontheside

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#14 posted 09-26-2013 01:52 PM

When I bought mine there was a delta on Cl for 350, but I was trying to spend 200. Keep looking for a while, you should be able to find something.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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Bogeyguy

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#15 posted 09-26-2013 02:11 PM

LOL! You had your Shop Smith joiner plugged into a power strip? You may want to upgrade for the new joiner when you get it.

-- Art, Pittsburgh.

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