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Randy_ATX

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338 days ago

I have these two Stanley planes a # 5 and # 7. I picked them up used years ago. I like to try and know the age of my tools and I assume these were made for many years. How can one narrow down the date these were made? I don’t think they are very old.

What are they worth? $50-$75 each? Both are in good shape, the #5 has a shiny japanning the #7 jappaning is all there but a dull tone – not sure what caused that.

Admittedly I don’t use them. I want to use both of these, but when I try I just get chatter and screw up the lumber. I know there is a ton of info out there. Is there a basic way to both sharpen the blades without investing much money and learn the basics so I can at least start getting some decent results? I’ve read a few articles and watched some videos but I just can’t get these to work without grabbing the wood. It must be they are not sharp enough.

Thanks

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH


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WayneC

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#1 posted 338 days ago

There are a number of stanley bench plane type studies that help to identify the age of planes. Below is one.

http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/

There are a bunch of blogs including mine that have info on the topics you are asking about on the site.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Randy_ATX

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#2 posted 338 days ago

Thanks Wayne – the flowchart on the link you sent is great. I will poke around your blog entries too.

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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bowedcurly

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#3 posted 338 days ago

Patricks Blood and Gore is a very good Stanley plane study just watch the Woodrights shop and get into the history and see the ease that handplanes make your woodworking, I use tools of today and stanley planes it has made my fit and finish of my projects 100% better, especially fitting say boxes making table legs just about ething I do a handplane is used to make the fit perfect instead of running to the tablesaw and dusting every 30 seconds you can really sneak up on a fit with a handplane have a good day

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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Tugboater78

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#4 posted 338 days ago

+1 to Wayne’s link, and his blogs

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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bowedcurly

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#5 posted 338 days ago

get the Veritas jig and you will have perfect sharp irons I use 2500 grit sandpaper for my final edge they cut very well the Veritas has made a world of difference in the planes edge easily shaves the hair of my arm almost scary sharp I guess it is scary sharp makes .0005 shavings

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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Tugboater78

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#6 posted 338 days ago

I use an eclipse jig to sharpen, with Paul sellers diamond plates and strop to sharpen. Fairly cheap and durable but I started with the scary scarp method and it worked well,

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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Randy_ATX

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#7 posted 338 days ago

I just searched “eclipse jig” and this page has a lot of great looking information:
http://www3.telus.net/BrentBeach/Sharpen/jig.html

Thanks for all the advice so far, it all helps.

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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Don W

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#8 posted 338 days ago

I’ve also got some blogs that may help tuning and using. I’m on my phone so copy and paste don’t work so well. Catch the fever, but watch out it’s a slippery slope.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Randy_ATX

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#9 posted 338 days ago

Thanks Don – I will add your blogs as a favorite too.

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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JayT

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#10 posted 338 days ago

Here's another Stanley type study I find very helpful, as it has lots of pictures to aid in dating. As far as value, I would place the #5 in the $25-30 range—it should be a great user, but since more #5’s were made than any other size, there are too many out there for the value to be high on standard Bailey models. The #7 I would probably value at $80-100, based on what the pic shows.

The blogs should help tremendously in tuning and use. The two most common problems I see people make when starting out are not being sharp enough and trying to take too much off in one pass. Good luck and welcome to the insanity :-)

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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sikrap

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#11 posted 337 days ago

+1 on the Rexmill site. I find it to be the easiest, most accurate site for “typing” Stanley planes. As for the value, the 7 is probably worth $75 and the 5 might be worth $50 if its in really, really nice shape. 5s are as common as dirt around here and don’t bring as much money. If we knew your location, I’m sure someone would offer to have you come over for a sharpening lesson and show you how to adjust the planes. Once you get them tuned and start using them, you won’t have to ask how to get to the slope. Good Luck!!

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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Tim

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#12 posted 337 days ago

The blogs mentioned here are great. For the really basic, but solid introduction, Wearing's The Essential Woodworker is a good resource too. e-reader editions are $10.

Above all, have fun. When a plane is tuned it’s a lot of fun.

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Randy_ATX

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#13 posted 336 days ago

I’m going to set aside a couple hours this weekend and review some of these suggestions and blogs. Thanks again.

Sikrap – I’m in Austin, TX. I would LOVE for that type of offer to come in. :-)

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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Homebrew

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#14 posted 329 days ago

Randy, Rexmill’s plane type study site should be all you need. The seven looks older than the 5 from the pics, but I’m thinking they are from the same type, the ones you have can be tricky to figure out. Post war, pre war…everything can get real blurry. Take it apart, figure out what type of frog you have, and go from there. that’s the best way to find out.

-- Scott Rieman

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mantwi

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#15 posted 329 days ago

On the #5 the throat opening is too wide, you need to move the frog forward. There’s an adjustment screw at the base of the backside of the frog. Sharpen them too a razor finish, check the surface of the frogs to make sure they are flat and file down any humps and adjust the chipbreaker so it’s just above the cutting edge. One to three 32nds. This should eliminate the chatter. I love those old Stanleys, check out this video by Christopher Tribe on improving the performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwMzgs-1Bw

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