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sakle2k

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09-18-2013 06:59 AM

Topic tags/keywords: laguna bandsaw rikon 10-325 laguna 1412

In the market for my first bandsaw and have been doing a lot of research. This is for a small garage shop (9’x18’) and no access to a 220 line. So, I’m looking for the best quality 14” saw that will run on 110v. This will be for general use – curves, ripping thick stock and re-sawing so I anticipate the need to change blades frequently.

I can get the Rikon 10-325 for $855 locally including tax, but have read many negative comments about their guides making blade changes a pain. I know I can upgrade to Carter guides which would add $200 to the total cost ($1055).

Despite all of the negative customer service posts, I’m looking at Laguna's new saw the model 14/12, but I haven’t been able to find any reviews or comments on it. The saw is $1095 + $49 shipping from woodwerks.com. So for $89 more, I get a saw with Laguna guides, an excellent fence and better fit & finish than the Rikon (from what I’ve read). The Laguna has a 1.75 HP motor vs. the Rikon’s 1.5 HP, but the Laguna only has re-saw capacity of 12” vs 13” for the Rikon. As I’ve never owned a bandsaw, not sure if that extra inch will be missed.

Any advice or feedback on the Laguna would be appreciated!

-- Les


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#1 posted 09-19-2013 07:13 PM

Bump

-- Les

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#2 posted 09-19-2013 08:31 PM

This saw has a lot of nice features, I scanned the manual for blade guide adjustment and seems straight forward. I always remove the table on my BS to adjust lower blade & thrust bearings so no problem. Actually did not see a thrust bearings top or bottom but they are mentioned. Did not read all 68 pages.

I do not own a Rikon, but looks like Laguna has more features I like.

Laguna has been both horrible and fair with customer service. So would have to see the band saw before buying. At one time their European Bandsaw were world class. Pretty sure this is a China made band saw but so is mine so not a problem for me.

-- Bill

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#3 posted 09-19-2013 10:50 PM

Thanks for the feedback Bill. Between the 2 saws I’m convinced I like the Laguna better from what I’ve read, but I agree that I’d like to see the saw before buying. But don’t think that’s possible for me – no stores nearby carry them.

Was really hoping someone out there had some first hand information/experience, but I may just have to take a leap of faith and buy it. If I do, I’ll post a review.

-- Les

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#4 posted 09-20-2013 09:00 PM

This band saw is so new not sure it has been displayed at woodworking shows held across the country yet. Guess that is why no one is talking about it on various message boards.

You might contact Laguna by e-mail and see if they will be displaying at any shows soon. Would also ask them about free shipping. Many items bought from them rate free shipping in lower 48 states.

Watching the video thought mobile base was standard feature, guess it is an optional accessory. Not a problem plenty less expensive alternatives.

-- Bill

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#5 posted 09-21-2013 12:10 AM

Just my opinion…but utilizing only 110 I’m not sure you’ll get the full value from a Laguna. It is an excellent saw to be sure. But for the kind of money you’re spending, I’d also consider adding 220 to really make it worth while. Just a thought…

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#6 posted 09-21-2013 03:04 AM

Bill,

I really wanted a saw now and read enough to convince me the Laguna would be a good value so I ordered it today. As it turns out, I posted the same question on sawmillcreek and found someone else that placed his order today too, so should start seeing reviews soon :)

Woodwerks.com is the Laguna distributor/rep for my area and have flat-rate drop ship with lift gate service for $49.

Scrub – Early on I thought about the 220 option, but would be alot more work than I can justify. This BS isn’t replacing an older, less powerful one, it’s my first. I’m a hobbyist and I’m pretty sure this saw will be more than I need. But thanks for the feedback!

-- Les

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#7 posted 09-21-2013 10:34 AM

Scrubplane

What would be the advantage of going to the expense to add 220 to the shop for a 1.75 hp motor? It won’t give you anymore HP.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#8 posted 09-21-2013 11:56 AM

AlaskaGuy,

I think Scrubplane meant that with 220 I could get a more powerful Laguna BS like the LT14 3000 with a 2HP motor and 14” resaw capacity (i.e., to get “the full value from a Laguna”). Would be nice, but that saw’s an extra $300 plus the cost of installing 220. As it is, I’m at the limit of my budget. I really think the 14/12 is the right choice for me.

-- Les

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#9 posted 09-21-2013 01:31 PM

Sakle2K, good luck with your new band saw, please let us know how it works for you.

If not mistaken specs say 115/230 volts so switching would be no problem later if want too! I am in the same boat with only 110V service and my band saw works just fine. Think it is possible to switch to 220V too.

-- Bill

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#10 posted 09-21-2013 01:56 PM

The design on this tool looks pretty sweet. On paper this saw address a sweet spot in the market for serious hobbyists/small shop pros, with tons of functionality, reasonable price point, and 110 volt power. After a year of anticipation, mine will arrive next week. Can’t wait to put it through its paces and see if it lives up to my expectations.

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

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#11 posted 09-22-2013 12:52 PM

Thanks Bill, I’ll let everyone know what I think. You’re right re. 110/220. From what I’‘ve read in other posts debating power, if your equipment is running on 110 and isn’t bogging down, dimming the lights or popping the breaker, it’s hard to justify the effort/expense of running 220. If after running it I have any of those problems, I’ll plan on the 220 upgrade, although I don’t have any electrical issues in my shop now.

Paul, I agree with you. When I saw the specs and price of this it really jumped out at me. Good luck with your saw. I’m hoping to have mine next Friday.

-- Les

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#12 posted 10-03-2013 09:38 PM

My saw arrived last Friday. So far I can’t imagine needing any more saw than this. I was concerned that running it on 110v. would be limiting what the saw could do, but so far so good. I’ve been able to resaw a regular 2×4 paper thin using a Laguna 3/8” blade. I also got the Laguna 5/8” for larger board resaws but haven’t tried it yet.

The fit/finish of the saw is really first class, although I had a problem with the table. Tightening the table split clamp would not bring the front and back of the table into alignment. The front (infeed) portion of the table is lower than the rear causing wood to catch when being pushed into the blade. With a straight edge across the split, I was able to fit 3 sheets of paper (.012”) in the gap.

I called Woodwerks who sold me the saw and they suggested I contact Laguna directly and ask to speak to Jason (although anyone could help). I called and mentioned the pictures I took which Jason looked at and immediately said that the table would be replaced. I received a phone call back a short time later letting me know that Laguna needs to order the new table and will send me an email when it’s shipped. It will include an RA to return the other table to them.

I was initially put off from reading so many negative reviews of Laguna’s customer service, and was close to getting the Rikon so that I wouldn’t have to worry about it. But Woodwerks assured me that all that has changed, and if I were to have any problems dealing with them, they would call on my behalf. I’m very satisfied with the way this was handled and have no hesitation is recommending both the saw and Woodwerks.

-- Les

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#13 posted 10-04-2013 12:21 AM

So far so good, now we just need to see how long it takes to get the replacement table.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#14 posted 10-04-2013 01:14 AM

My suggestion promoting 220 over 110 is certainly not critical but is three-fold.

First, one advantage of running 220 is that are drawing the power from both hot legs in the circuit box…meaning, your tool will reach maximum speed more quickly.

Second, and far more importantly, there are two hots, so it will only pull half the amperage through each hot lead, meaning all your wiring both leading to the tool and within the motor itself will run cooler . . . with a dual voltage motor, the two windings in the motor run in series for 115v, and in parallel at 230v with half the amps running through the windings . . . cooler is always a good thing as the motor will last longer.

A bit over-kill in some applications I agree…just my preference I guess. THANKS…

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#15 posted 10-04-2013 02:00 AM

resawing 12” sounds terrifying

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