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sawdustjunkie

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09-14-2013 12:35 PM

OK !! I am brand new here, Kinda
I am have been reading this forum for quite some time and decided to join in.
I currently have no major project in the works except for building a table Saw work station.

I have a Craftsman table saw that is about 25 years old. It still seems to work ok, but I don’t really think I could get parts for it anymore if I wanted to. It is the one with the honey comb cast iron wings and motor hanging on the back and has very poor dust collection. I couldn’t get any more dust on myself unless I poured it on my head.

I did install a MuelCab rip fence on it a few years ago and a link belt and that made a big difference.
I am thinking about a new table saw and am not really sure what to get.
My shop is my garage and I have to move the saw against the wall when I am done with it.

My question is what to get.
I can spend around $1,000 or so and have read all the reviews on this site. There doesn’t seem to be any one answer for a new saw. There are good and bad comments on almost every saw that has been reviewed.
I do have 220 available if I need it, but I don’t really see myself becoming a master cabinet maker.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
I know this is a real tough question to ask, because it seems everyone here has a different saw they use.

Thanks for reading.

Steve

-- Steve: Franklin, WI


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Gary

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#1 posted 09-14-2013 01:16 PM

you’re kinda asking if you should buy an expedition, surburban or escalade. You’re going to get various opinions based on experience and bias. I have a rigid and love it. Cast iron, not granite. I don’t like craftsman….newer stuff. Never used too many others. Had a Ryobi…nuts to that thing.
Just get ready for LOTS of opinions. You’ll just have to sort thru them to get the info you want. But, you might think of this. If you buy a less expensive saw, you’ll have money left over for other tools. Depending on what you are going to do, you may overspend by dropping a grand on a TS. (This is one of many opinions)

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#2 posted 09-14-2013 01:23 PM

Look at Grizzly saws. Lotsa saw for the money.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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firefighterontheside

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#3 posted 09-14-2013 01:31 PM

Here’s my recommendation. I don’t have one, but its what I would get if i got a new one.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Hybrid-Table-Saw-with-Riving-Knife-Polar-Bear-Series-/G0715P
I have an old style grizzly contractor saw and love it, but it doesn’t do great for dust either. The hybrid would do much better. You’ll need a mobile base with it, like the shopfox that grizzly sells.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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GT350

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#4 posted 09-14-2013 02:03 PM

I had a Craftsman saw that I bought used from the ‘70’s I believe and it served me well. Check with Sears as they may still have parts if you need them. If it is a contactor saw you may want to just build a base for it like in the pictures and if you don’t have a dust collector spend the money on that. Make sure and use the blade guard as it not only saves fingers but it stops the sawdust from covering you.

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#5 posted 09-14-2013 02:53 PM

If your saw is one of the many full size (10” blade, 27” deep) Emerson made contractor saws, it’s actually got all the basics covered pretty well…especially with the fence upgrade. It lacks a riving knife, mass, oodles of power, good DC, and solid wings. There are still plenty of skeletons to pull parts from, as well as new parts available, but that doesn’t mean you wouldn’t enjoy a new saw, or that there wouldn’t be some benefit.

In order for it to be a substantial upgrade, and thus worth doing, you’ll probably want to add plenty of mass, solid cast wings, a true riving knife, a full enclosure (better DC), an even better fence, and likely more power. A good hybrid is a capable upgrade, but they tend to be only a partial upgrade compared to an industrial cabinet saw, yet can cost nearly as much. You’ve got 220v covered…if another $350 doesn’t swamp your budget, the next step to an industrial cabinet saw like the Grizzly G1023RL or G0690 is pretty substantial, and represents what I feel is one of the best bangs for the buck going in a new saw. It’s a big upgrade, and likely all the saw you’ll ever need….twice the mass, twice the power, better fence, better DC, riving knife, solid wings, better mechanisms, possibly better precision, smoother hand wheel action, etc. You could always sell your current saw to bridge some of the gap, or could look to a good used saw.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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sawdustjunkie

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#6 posted 09-14-2013 03:37 PM

Wow I didn’t think I would get this good of a response.
I actually did build a Saw station and the bottom is enclosed and has a dust port to help with that problem. I enclosed the back of the saw to keep dust enclosed and do have a dust port installed.
I am currently building a much better saw station. I also want to build up the sides for more storage and put a router station to the right of the saw.
I have an Incra router table now and love it, but with a new saw station why not have another router station available. I actually have 2 Bosch routers and 2 Craftsman kinda cheapo routers that work ok, but not as good as the Bosch.
I did take a look at the Grizzly saws and from what I have read on this site, they seem to have several good reviews. I really like the Grizzly G017p Polar Bear one. Seems like a decent saw for the money

I also just built a cross cut sled and that has made a big difference in the cut quality.
Also going to better blades has helped quite a lot. Much quieter and far less vibration. The link belt also made a huge difference.

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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#7 posted 09-15-2013 06:57 PM

My recommendation would be to look for a used cabinet saw, preferably one made in Taiwan. Used saws in the $1000 range will be around 5 years old. Any new saw in that price range will be made in China and with anything made in China, “you pays your money and takes your chances”. Buying a used saw is like buying a late model used car. Any bugs they may have had have been worked out. You also could benefit by getting a first class fence in the deal. A good fence can go $300 and up. Oh! One other thing I should mention. All contractor saw are left tilting. The new cabinet saws are mostly right tilting. If tilt concerns you, that will narrow down your choices between new and used.

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#8 posted 09-15-2013 07:11 PM

Welcome, glad to have you aboard. You will need to define what you want in a saw, riving knife,type of fence, etc. See what you can get for $1000.00, then see if you can get the same in another brand with same quality. You may also want to check for a used saw, either way you may get what you want and have money left for other equipment and/or tools

-- Norman

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sawdustjunkie

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#9 posted 09-16-2013 08:42 PM

I have been looking on Craigs List for a few months now and have seen many Craftsman saws, an only a few very, very, old Delta and Powermatic that they still want $600 + for them.
I have been looking at the Grizzley G0690 and it looks very nice. I am just not sure I want to spend $1500 including shipping.
I went and looked at the Ridgid at my local HD and we also have Menards in my area and they have the MasterCraft saw that is identical to the Ridgid. I just don’t know if I am upgrading myself enough from what I currently have. I don’t think they have much more power than my Craftsman. My Craftsman actually works fine. I spent the time to align everything I could, and get a decent straight cut with it.
Buying a new saw and spending the money isn’t the problem. I just don’t know if I would actually get my money’s worth considering the amount of projects I actually do and intend to do.

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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