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Jerry

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349 days ago

As many here know I am an auction nut. I use auctions some as fun and some to replace or upgrade. Our hinge boring attachment on drill press broke, so off to searching auctions. I ended up getting a great deal on a Blum minipress.

But to the point, I managed to get a PM 65 for an excellent deal, only paid 82.00 total counting auction fees. It is complete except missing power switch. It has the powermatic version of the biesmeyer fence with 50” cross cut so I figured the fence was worth more then I paid. The last auction Table saw I bought was a 5hp Unisaw with Bies fence, I sold it recently. But this PM has me thinking because except for a good cleaning and fresh coat of paint it would be a good saw and probably nicer than our current Grizzly.

The issue is this. It currently has a 2 HP 3 phase motor. I would certainly have to swap out the motor in order to make it work for us. It would be the primary saw doing 75% of cutting task taking Grizzlies place. I would install a single phase motor about 3 HP. I know where I can get good Leeson replacement motors for PM 66 but I am not sure if frame configuration is same from the PM 66 to the PM 65. So I am thinking a 400.00 motor and a 80.00 power switch and some paint/TLC and we would have a very nice saw for less than 600.

We do have a 10 hp phase converter and we are getting a nice collection of 3 phase equipment. But our current shop is limited on power so we always have to consider power consumption while running machines. But that main saw runs a lot so that would mean our converter would almost need to run non stop and likely would put us over our power capacity from time to time. This next winter we should move into our new shop that will have a full 200 amp service. Then no issues but At this time we have to be careful.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net


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Shawn Masterson

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#1 posted 349 days ago

For what you stole it for I would oil it up and store it till you move. I personally don’t its worth changing the motor.

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Loren

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#2 posted 349 days ago

“The motor needed is a 56C frame, C meaning it’s a face mounted motor.”

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?148802-Need-some-Powermatic-Table-Saw-advice

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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dahenley

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#3 posted 349 days ago

a 65 is the pre assessor to the 66.

i would think they are the same motor, but i have heard the 66 had more beefy trunions and casts, but similar??
maybe a person that has actually put there hands on one of the saws can give actual info haha

-- David Henley

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Jerry

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#4 posted 349 days ago

Thanks for info. I think it will be a nice saw.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Jerry

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#5 posted 349 days ago

Oh yeah, this came from www.irsauctions.com. I actually placed the initial minimum bid on all three PM saws, others were the 66 models. No person tried to bid against me at all on the 65 model so I won with minimum bid. The 66 models went around 300.00. I agree I stole the saw. I will have to look for 56c frame motors, of like Shawn said, just store it. Only thing with that is our shop is small and I hit auctions monthly so I know the next deal is just around the corner.

For those looking for good deals, I encourage auctions. I am doing an auction thread that I hope to update soon.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Randy_ATX

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#6 posted 349 days ago

Jerry, how does the shipping work?

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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Jerry

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#7 posted 349 days ago

Randy,

The www.irsauction.com happened in Texas, actually near Dallas so I am driving there. I did also do an auction at www.machinerymax.com this week and that auction is out in CA. I have arranged some floor space on a truck for some machines I bought. The truck will deliver to my place here in Floresville, TX. If you think you want anything from www.machinerymax.com I could probably help you with it since I sort of reserved floor space. I was basically quoted a 12’ by 8’ floor space up to 8’ tall and that was going to be 1,200.00. The machines I bought yesterday only take up a foot print of 7’ by 6’ and they told me it would be 900.00. So I figured if I could get the use of much more floor space for just little more money in freight, I would bid on a couple more machines tomorrow before shipment departs CA. So if anything you want from www.machinerymax.com let me know soon and as long as the auction is expiring tomorrow I could get it on my shipment floor space. I will say that I have bought what amounts to 7 pieces (acually 4 machines and 3 of them have powerfeeders attached) of equipment for a total price of 900 shipped which is not bad. There is one more machine I need pretty bad out in CA that I plan to bid on tomorrow so I am hoping I don’t have too much competition.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Randy_ATX

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#8 posted 349 days ago

thanks. I’ll see if I can find a bandsaw in my budget. Good luck getting the other item.

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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Jerry

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#9 posted 349 days ago

No problem Randy. They had a nice looking bandsaw this week but I think it is sold. I will say that I see bandsaws near us fairly regularly. School auctions are great. In fact there in Austin a couple weeks ago 2 PM 14” bandsaws in good condition sold for 180.00 each. That was found on www.onlinepros.com. I have also found larger 20” bandsaws at school auctions and recently at an online military base auction at www.govliquidation.com.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Randy_ATX

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#10 posted 349 days ago

Good info Jerry, I’ll be in touch.

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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unbob

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#11 posted 349 days ago

I had a model 65 for a while, cant remember the HP, but it was 3phase.
Some parts are different then the 66.
I traded it for a model 72-12”.
The fellow that I traded it to wanted to install a single phase motor, but he couldn’t find one with the right sized shaft for the motor frame size.
Cant just change the pulley because those are special with a non standard belt spacing.
Something that should be looked at.

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Dez

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#12 posted 300 days ago

ROFL! Really? $86.00? And you are asking questions? That would be like me asking questions about free shop space to set up my tools…

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!

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