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HorizontalMike

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304 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: sargent handplane 415c corrugated 415 refurb

I stumbled across this Sargent #415C this past week and was able to pick it up for $20. The seller labeled this only as a ”10in Wood Plane”.

I got lucky and was the only one to notice and bid. Heckel’s Value Guide puts it at $75-$150, and this thing is complete! Even the blade has NOT been beat on and clearly labeled #415, as is the cap and sole! Tote and knob are above average and sound.

Anyone else found an eBay bargain lately?

COMPLETED CLEANUP AT OR NEAR BOTTOM POST

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."


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Handtooler

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#1 posted 304 days ago

You’ve earned braging rights for the day! Guess you search the right way and time? I’ll await your cleaned shots to follow, as doesn’t look as though you’ll be doing much restoration. Is that a mirror showing the corragations? They appear flat.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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HorizontalMike

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#2 posted 304 days ago

Thanks! I have been spending the past hour with 70% Isopropyl alcohol, Q-tips and paper towels trying to get this thing clean. Looks like the japanning is going to be 98-99% complete. I am going to have to agree with you Russell, I won’t be doing the traditional strip and re-japan restoration, though I will probably run the blade, chipper and cap through the electrolysis bath. In a way the non-restoration cleanup is more work, but worth it in the long run. BTW, the corrugations really are not too bad at all. The only thing that seems to be a bit buggered up are the two frog screws heads. I’ve got some better ones to swap out to.

I am thinking of using my “RustFree” on the plane base to help me get a head start on the clean, but want to protect the japanning. Then probably just wire wheel it.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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palaswood

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#3 posted 304 days ago

I’m so jelly :)

-- Joseph, Lake Forest, CA, http://instagram.com/palas_woodcraft#

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Don W

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#4 posted 304 days ago

Mike, any of the Sargent bench plane sizes you don’t have yet? you must be getting close by now.

I agree, the deals are still there.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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JayT

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#5 posted 304 days ago

In a way the non-restoration cleanup is more work, but worth it in the long run

+1. I love keeping the character and history, if possible. Unfortunately, I also seem to pick up a lot of basket cases where that isn’t in the cards.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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#6 posted 304 days ago

Well my purchase history in eBay has disappeared but earlier this year I bought a2 plane lot, a 5.5 and a 5 Stanley. The 5.5 ended up being a t11 and the 5 is a type 17? I think, got.em shipped to me for $25 total. Thought that was a great deal myself. And my recent 203 bench bracket for 31 shipped seemed to be another.

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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HorizontalMike

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#7 posted 304 days ago

”...Well my purchase history in eBay has disappeared but earlier this year…”

Justin,
Yeah same thing here… }:-\ Well the technical stuff is still there, but no images so I can’t double check what I picked up for how much…

Yeah Don,
I still want a decent 410 and 411, smooth or corrugated. Then I would have all the #400s sizes, though not all of the corrugated varieties. Trying to collect the Type2s (have 5409c, 414, 418, 422, and 424 type2s currently). FWIW, I do NOT see a #407 or #407C Type2 coming my way unless I hit the lotto.. ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Stephenw

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#8 posted 304 days ago

I’ve purchased two Stanley #7 planes on eBay and none have arrived in one piece. The sellers packaged them poorly and they broke in shipping.

I finally got a Sargent plane to arrive in one piece, but I don’t know if I got a deal or was burned.

It is a 22 inch long plane. It says “Made in USA” on the sole. The lever cap says “418” on the underside and “Sargent” on top. I do not see any other markings. The iron is a Stanley.

I paid $43.

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WayneC

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#9 posted 304 days ago

Congrats on the buy Mike. You have me paying more attiontion to Sargent planes. I’ve mainly been focused on Stanley bench planes.

Stephen, looks like a good deal for $43.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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HorizontalMike

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#10 posted 304 days ago

Stephen,
What you have is a Hercules model of Sargent handplanes, this basically runs post-war to/through their eventual closing in approximately 1964. I focus my Sargent planes collecting to pre-WWII so I am afraid I cannot help you on specific value though I do know there is a market for them.

FWIW, it is easy to get carried away with collecting any of these planes. Early this year I got a complete and total awakening to “collecting” in general and to handplanes collecting specifically. I met a local (now friend) that has/had over 2,000 hand planes in his collection, yes over 2,000 hand planes. For example, he has/had the ENTIRE Ohio Plane Company collection. ALL OF THEM! And that was just one part of his collection. As I recall he has roughly 115 #1 hand planes and something like >160 #2 hand planes, and it goes on and on. I was dumbfounded, and really still am. This guy is near 80 and has been collecting for nearly 50yr, and has traveled the World doing so.

All that being said, I set my limits EARLY and want to stay with just the #400s series Sargents and nothing more. Pick your poison, I can only afford a very SMALL slice of the pie. Enjoy…
Michael

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Stephenw

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#11 posted 304 days ago

Thanks for the info Mike.

I purchased the plane to use. I will be cleaning it up and repainting it.

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theoldfart

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#12 posted 304 days ago

Mike, “I set my limits EARLY and want to stay with just …..” Really? From my observations such drivel will get you burned at the altar of the obsessed collector. I mean what would DonW say? I think you should write 1,000 times I will collect EVERYTHING. Jus’ sayin’
Actually your advice is sound, holding myself in check is shear hell. Thank god for budgets and the spouses that watch them!

-- "Aged flatus, I heard that some one has already blown out your mortise." THE Surgeon ……………………………………. Kevin

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 303 days ago

OK, 24hr later and I have completed an alcohol cleaning of the #415C base and buffed out the frog, cap, chipper and blade. However, the corrugation is original condition (pretty clean for +80years). The base, while ~99% original japanning, has lots of very small chips and paint spots. I will refinish the tote and knob and maybe take a wire brush to the corrugation and sides (maybe). I am very pleased with how this thing looks already.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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WayneC

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#14 posted 303 days ago

It came out very nice Mike. I prefer them in original condition.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Don W

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#15 posted 303 days ago

I love a plane when the japanning isn’t perfect, but close, some patina on the metal and the wood is made perfect. It looks great so far Mike. Probably all I would do is make the knob and tote real pretty.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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