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Forum topic by AndySensei posted 325 days ago 1219 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AndySensei

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325 days ago

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Hi everyone,

I’m new to the forum, but have learned a lot from lurking around. I have a “simple” question about bandsaw tuning. I recently purchased my first bandsaw. It’s a KERV DF-14. It seemed to be the best value/quality available to me here in Japan. It looks great and feels real solid but it is the first bandsaw I’ve owned. The side guide bearings are roller ball bearings and the thrust bearing is also a ball bearing (flat side facing blade) On to my question:

I leave a VERY small gap between the blade and the side guide bearings after tensioning the blade, but the bearings spin when I run the saw. The noise isn’t bad, but I’m not sure if I should have them spinning with no cut being made. I’m also experimenting with Thrust bearing gap settings. Should it be turning at all with no cut being made?

It doesn’t bother me to try and dial it in for a few more days, I’m having fun learning about this machine.

Any advice would be appreciated. I’m glad I decided to join the community to share projects, learn, and grow as a woodworker. I look forward to hearing from anyone who has had some experience with this type of blade guide.


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Tommy Evans

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#1 posted 325 days ago

I can’t speak of the side bearings, my Craftsman has cool blocks. But make sure the bearings are BEHIND the gullets of the blade. On the craftsman the thrust bearing behind the blade is NOT to turn when Not cutting. It should be .002 – .003 away. Think a sheet of paper. Others will probably chime in with better info as they FINALLY wake up! LOL

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Loco

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#2 posted 325 days ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbZqWac0jU

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bowedcurly

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#3 posted 325 days ago

about .005 clearence from blade to bearing on side bearings, thrust bearing about 1/32 I think, but the blade will touch the side bearings when you put a load or cut on it plus the weld in the blade will hit too get that setup and you will be fine don’t forget to set your bottom bearings also Have fun and make some dust

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Blackie_

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#4 posted 325 days ago

The video that Loco posted is worth it’s weight in gold, Alex will answer all the questions you are asking in his video, a great learning tool, I use his method, with his video no feeler gauges are needed it’s all in the lining feeling with the fingers and tightening of the blade,

As Alex states in video always make sure the saw is unplugged when doing these operations.

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Sandra

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#5 posted 325 days ago

Loco’s link is what I used for adjusting my bearings. Watch the video all the way through. It’s worth it.

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MrRon

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#6 posted 324 days ago

Check the weld on the blade. If the weld is thicker than the blade thickness, it is probably making contact with the guides as it passes them. The weld must be smooth and the rollers making contact (no clearance) with the blade. Band saw blades account for most of the problems. If the blade is thicker at the joint, it will push the guides outward. That will cause the blade to “skew”. See my thread “For all band saw owners”.

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AndySensei

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#7 posted 321 days ago

Thanks for all the advice. I watched the entire video, and it was a big help. I took into consideration everything you guys told me as well.

My first problem was that I was using the crap blade that came from the factory. I switched it out to a “Shark Blade” which is made here in Japan, and it is WAY better than before. After a few more adjustments and test cuts, I have cutting 1/8” x 1” x 36” strips of Black Walnut and White Oak for my first try at bent lamination. The saw is performing better than it was before, that’s for sure.

Since I have little experience with this saw (and woodworking in general) I will surely be posting more questions as time goes on.

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MrRon

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#8 posted 320 days ago

The side rollers should contact he blade. The thrust bearing should be 1/64” (.4mm) away from the back of the blade. The bearing will rotate only as you feed the work into the blade. Keep the tension as high as possible relative to the blade’s width.

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 320 days ago

Mr Ron, I respectfully disagree. The side rollers should not contact the blade but should be a dollar bill’s thickness from it.

Mark Dujinski or Lonnie Bird’s bandsaw books are very worthwhile reads.

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MrRon

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#10 posted 316 days ago

gfadvm, Rollers are meant to roll. that’s why they make roller guides, despite what Mark or Lonnie says. If guides don’t contact the blade, the blade can skew when feeding wood into it. I keep the rollers on mine in contact and I don’t get any drift.

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MrRon

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#11 posted 315 days ago

Please note that there is no mention of roller guides in the Duginske book, except for metal cutting band saws.

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