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shaver

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09-02-2013 09:01 AM

Ahoy -

First post for me.. I’ve been tossing around the idea of building a mission style bed frame and I’m trying to get the necessary items together for building it.

I’ve been looking into hand planes lately, and hit an estate auction this past week in an attempt to get myself some useable tools to restore and utilize.

I’d like to try and get all the hand planes together I’ll need.. and then move onto perhaps either a router/router table or some long clamps.

Anyhoo.. was hoping for some thoughts/advice on the planes I picked up, and what I may need, not only for this project, but going forward.

For $80, I got the following planes:

After looking them over and finding cracks/broken adjusters, etc.. I’ve consolidated a useable (restorable) group down to:

Baileys No .3, 4, 5, 7 – a stanley 9/12, and a stanley 102

I have some work ahead of me in getting them to some semblance of useability, but the process should be fun – and hoping for a good outcome. (lapping, polishing & scrubbing, oh my!)

That being said, As far as really utilizing the consolidated bunch, I realistically see myself using the block planes and the no. 4 plane the most..

I’d also like to pickup a stanley 60 1/2 low angle plane, and possibly a rabbeting plane to round out my hand planes.

Regarding the 60 1/2 low angle, I’ve seen some oldies on ebay that look appealing but not sure exactly what was the best ‘era’ for those – I’ve heard bad things about the current production of stanley 60 1/2 planes, and based on the fact that they’re a little pricier anyway, I’d like to save some mulah and go with something tried and true.

Anyone have any recommendations on a good stanley low angle block plane example? (I don’t have the funds for a LN/Veritas block plane, so lemme just stop you there ;)

As far as a rabbeting plane, that’ll easily be the most expensive plane I’d have to purchase.. Any recommendations on a rabbeting plane? (for tenons)

Thanks!

-Drew


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bandit571

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#1 posted 09-02-2013 10:04 AM

just keep looking, I found a Wards, made by Stanley.

$16 + S&H for that minty #78 clone.

Look around a few sales for a 60 low angle block. I haven’t needed one, yet.

welcome to a very slippery slope…..

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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JoeinGa

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#2 posted 09-02-2013 12:01 PM

And so it begins…. The Plane Addiction! :-)

nice score

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Don W

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#3 posted 09-02-2013 12:05 PM

Welcome to LJ’s.

First, that’s a nice starter set you got there for $80. You are off to a good start and headed down a very slippery slope. Those things are as addicting as potatoes chips.

I’d tune up that 9 1/2 and don’t worry about a 60 1/2 until you stumble across one. That 9 1/2 will serve you very well.

There is lots of help here on tuning, but here is my thoughts.

And it doesn’t look like to many of yours need a full restore, but just in case.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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sikrap

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#4 posted 09-02-2013 08:33 PM

Yeah, you did very well for $80. Don’s links will be very helpful, but if yo get stuck, just ask here and at least one of us will be very happy to help you. As for a low angle block, don’t rush out and get one just to have it. They are pretty common at garage/moving/estate sales and, if you’re patient, you can grab one for $10 or less. As for the rabbeting plane, I would suggest buying one from someone you know rather than ebay. I suspect Don can sell you one and I know I can :) Buying one that’s ready to work for $30-$40 might turn out to be less expensive than getting one for $20 plus shipping if its missing pieces or needs lots of work. Congrats!! on the haul and welcome to one of the slipperiest slopes there is.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#5 posted 09-02-2013 08:47 PM

Nice haul! Was everybody asleep when those planes came to the auction block? Even after separating the wheat from the chaff, that was a great deal for $80. Congrats!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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shaver

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#6 posted 09-02-2013 09:43 PM

I went to the auction with a budget and after all was said and done, I’m kicking myself for not spending $80 more for some great deals.

For instance, a Delta drill press went for $30, and a butcher block woodworking table with vise went for $45 (easily 300 lbs+) – there was a whole slew of pipe clamps I could have used – but the bidding was fast and furious for those.

The auction was wonky – you basically bid on boxes of tools – the contents of which were a mish-mash – for instance, a lot may be tomato box of chisels, planes, and drill bits.. 2 of the planes you don’t want, and one you might want – but you need to take the whole thing if you want it. Things got interesting when one person wanted one thing in the box, and someone else wanted something else – that was how I got the bailey no. 3 plane, it was thrown in a bucket with a paint shaker someone won for a $40 bid.. I offered them $10 (for that rusty ‘ole tool) and we both got what we wanted.

There were probably around 50 planes all totaled, all dispersed amongst perhaps 15 separate lots – the planes I came away with were from 3 seperate lots.. I definitely got the picks of the litter (no bedrocks the or like here)

Oh, neglected to mention – got a 10 amp deep cycle battery charger for $10 (I hope it works) – planned to strip the rust with electrolysis.

Speaking of which.. I want to wash the chip breakers/soles that might be too much work in an electrolytic bath for a while.. I have the bucket, I have the battery charger (I hope), got the washing soda.. about an sacrificial anode…

The last homeowner graciously left us about 200 lbs in cast iron barbell plates, i.e.:

I know not to use stainless steel, galvanized steel or brass.. cast iron would be fine, right?

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Tbolt

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#7 posted 09-02-2013 11:56 PM

Very nice haul Shaver, you did very good. DonW’s links will help you a great deal.

-- Fumbling and Bumbling Woodworking Todd

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shaver

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#8 posted 09-03-2013 12:07 AM

okie, almost ready to throw the rusty parts in the electrolysis bath – for anyone who has done this – does this look like it’ll do the job? (picture water just covering the top of the pieces and just below the positive battery charger clip)

Negative clip conducting along straightened wire hanger-thru-pipe to repurposed paint-bucket handle hangers to the pieces themselves.

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Don W

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#9 posted 09-03-2013 12:23 AM

it should work, but sometimes I find it necessary to clamp the wires to the pieces to get connectivity. you can tell pretty quick. If you don’t see bubbles on a few minutes, its not working.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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shaver

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#10 posted 09-03-2013 08:08 PM

Thanks Don & All..

I’ve started working on the number 4 bailey – I’ve ground the sole and sides on a piece of granite and 100 grit sandpaper- the body & frog have no rust on them, so that’s an easy clean up.. the blade, chip-breaker and lever cap all need to go into the electrolysis bath..

After I scrub and wire brush the parts, I plan to wipe 3-in-1 oil as a protectant – leave the handle and knob as is (they appear fine)

Once I’m done with the no.4, I’ll post a pic.

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Tugboater78

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#11 posted 09-03-2013 08:34 PM

Extra fine scotch brite pads are awesome for final polish, just a little tidbit, looks like you are off to a great start

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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shaver

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#12 posted 09-10-2013 10:16 PM

okie!

got bailey #3 and #4 (mostly) done (middle two bench planes from the second picture of the first post)

Here they are:

Bailey #3:


Bailey #4:


And working on the #5C – currently stewing in the electrolysis bath:

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Don W

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#13 posted 09-10-2013 10:22 PM

Looking good!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Tugboater78

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#14 posted 09-10-2013 10:41 PM

Got em all spiffied up, lookin good!

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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HorizontalMike

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#15 posted 09-10-2013 11:15 PM

Wow! Don’t ya’ just love the electrolysis bath or what!... Cool!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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